The Official Macross Delta Anime Thread Mk I

[Iris Scope]

Yes! YES! JESUS H. TAP DANCING CHRIST, I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!

No more Robotech viewing for me for the rest of the life. The Macross segment may be what made it the bees knees back in the hey day but I was SO bored attempting just one watch of Southern Cross that even though the only reason I wanted to see anything HG related was for the live action movie, it ain't worth it. RIP My Robotech Experience 1998-2023!

[Iris Scope]

Uh...ignore what I said and please any mod or admin delete the post if possible.

[Seto Kaiba]

Well, that was odd... anyway...

The Macross II Kickstarter's in its final few days and only a few thousand dollars from being Animeigo's biggest ever crowdfunding project.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ma ... =user_menu

[Iris Scope]

My apologies for the confusion. It's just that even though there possibly is no chance of a live action Robotech movie then I would be happy to see it and supposedly I heard that they won't be using the OG names for the characters so instead they would change each one but I don't mind. All in all, I guess I can't change my fascination for Robotech even if I tried.

[Seto Kaiba]

My apologies for the confusion. It's just that even though there possibly is no chance of a live action Robotech movie then I would be happy to see it and supposedly I heard that they won't be using the OG names for the characters so instead they would change each one but I don't mind. All in all, I guess I can't change my fascination for Robotech even if I tried.

There's nothing wrong with retaining affection for the shows you enjoyed when you were younger.

The (proposed) Robotech live action movie is a really weird and interesting prospect, in no small part because it's basically Nightmare Difficulty for development of a movie based on a licensed IP and kind of the ultimate expression of Robotech's troubled legal situation. Well over 90% of the Robotech IP is just plain unusable for the film because Harmony Gold USA is just a licensee and doesn't actually own any of the IP from the Robotech TV series. Because Robotech is an adaptation and therefore derivative of pre-existing copyrighted works, HG can only copyright the material they added and not any of the aspects of the original works being adapted. So the proposed live action movie's stuck in the position of not being able to actually use anything from the Robotech TV series, meaning it'd have to be an all-original development that was quite literally Robotech in name only. (And at that point why bother paying royalties for the name when you can stick an original title on it and keep the extra cash yourself?)

It'd be interesting to see what would come of it if it did get made... since the last time Robotech had actual talent working on new development was Robotech II: the Sentinels in '86. Poor Sukehiro Tomita got stuck trying to explain to Tatsunoko execs that Macek's story concept was not workable. If it HAD gotten the go-ahead, the 2021 settlement between Big West and Harmony Gold would probably have been unnecessary... given that HG's stated plan was to use the live action movie to make a clean break with animated Robotech and start over. The licensing brouhaha might've been resolved ten years earlier without Big West having to force Harmony Gold to bend the knee in court across half the planet.

[pirx]

Unfortunately we have yet to see any Macross products to appear oficially so far no Seven or Frontier or Delta or Zero spotted anywhere.

[Seto Kaiba]

Unfortunately we have yet to see any Macross products to appear oficially so far no Seven or Frontier or Delta or Zero spotted anywhere.

We're starting to see stuff trickle in... for instance, Animeigo recently concluded a Kickstarter campaign for the Blu-ray release of Macross II: Lovers Again that raised more than 500% of its funding goal and is expected to release the Blu-ray in 4K UHD along with an artbook some other extras in this year.

We should be seeing announcements from the other licensees soon.

[Mafty]

Do you think all the projects will be Kickstarters? Or will some see mass retail release?

[Chris]

Do you think all the projects will be Kickstarters? Or will some see mass retail release?

No, I wouldn't expect any of them to be Kickstarters aside from Macross II since that's how AnimEigo does all their releases now. However, their releases are also available to the public after the Kickstarter project is complete.

[Seto Kaiba]

Do you think all the projects will be Kickstarters? Or will some see mass retail release?

They'll all see retail release.

As Chris noted, doing it by Kickstarter first is just Animeigo's way of doing things. They use Kickstarter more as an elaborate preorder system than a "fund the entire project" system, with a fair amount of the proceeds going to pay for the preorder bonuses.

[Mafty]

Thanks, I wasn't sure how this all worked.

[Iris Scope]

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS!!! Those losers at HG went back on their promise to release the other Macross titles that hadn't been already released. Apparently it was announced two years ago and I am more appalled that I am the last to know. Go back HG to your "real" estate deals, you scumbags!

[Seto Kaiba]

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS!!! Those losers at HG went back on their promise to release the other Macross titles that hadn't been already released. Apparently it was announced two years ago and I am more appalled that I am the last to know. Go back HG to your "real" estate deals, you scumbags!

... my good chum, I'm not sure what led you to this conclusion but I fear you may be misinterpreting something somewhere along the way.

If I had to guess, I'd assume it's probably HG's badly-phrased statement that their agreement with Big West including a caveat about shared designs being off the table.

Given that Big West itself has already released Macross: Flash Back 2012 internationally on streaming via YouTube and other platforms and that we know for a fact that Macross Plus, Macross 7, Macross Frontier, Macross Delta, and Macross II were all licensed for global distribution one and a half years ago by Nozomi Entertainment and Animeigo, that caveat only seems to apply to a few things:

• DYRL?
• Any future attempt to do a Gundam: the ORIGIN-style remake of the original Macross series for global consumption.
• Appearances by the TV versions of certain mecha in future TV shows.

As long as the character design is at least slightly different - e.g. aged-up Max and Milia from 7 - they don't seem to have an issue.

The main holdup in global Macross distribution seems to be Nozomi Entertainment's parent company RightStuf having been acquired by Sony's Crunchyroll a few months after the licensing announcement.

[Iris Scope]

You are right, I did get the wrong impression. But when I first read it, it was the first time I thought negatively of HG. Thank you for clearing that up.

[Seto Kaiba]

You are right, I did get the wrong impression. But when I first read it, it was the first time I thought negatively of HG. Thank you for clearing that up.

No worries... and yeah, HG certainly has spent twenty-something years making it EXTREMELY easy to think the worst of them.

In practical terms, Big West probably didn't think anything of that part of the agreement since the rights to DYRL? are tangled enough that they're not likely to plan a release for the movie outside Japan anytime soon and the designs of characters and such from the original series would not be in use anyway in future sequels. After all, the most recent title in the franchise's main continuity - the movie Macross Delta: Absolute Live!!!!!! - was set 56 years after the end of the original series. The ships and mecha of the original series were largely retired decades ago in-story and the younger members of the main cast are a good decade on the wrong side of retirement age. They're not likely to contribute anything to future stories set even later in the timeline. (Esp. since the voice actors for several of them have passed, and Kawamori seems to prefer to not recast characters except for video games.)

[Ryujin]

https://twitter.com/macrossD/status/1769638843563794534
https://twitter.com/MACROSS_BIGWEST/sta ... 6856437941
https://macross.jp/news-detail/25073/

Some news regarding Macross & Disney+...

...with SDF & DYRL a Japan exclusive, but it is what it is.

[Mafty]

Amazing! Particularly since it will happen sometime this year.

[Seto Kaiba]

The fan community is VERY confused now...

Most of us were thinking that Macross would land at Crunchyroll, given that it recently finished merging with original series licensee Funimation and that it purchased Macross TV series licensee Nozomi Entertainment in 2022. All but a few OVA licenses are effectively under Sony's banner directly or indirectly, which makes it INCREDIBLY weird that Disney+ somehow ended up with the streaming rights.

[John-Luck Pickerd]

ok i gotta say the mouse getting the streaming right is really fucking wild lol.

i am not even happy or sad about this. i am just... flabbergasted.

[Chris]

The fan community is VERY confused now...

Most of us were thinking that Macross would land at Crunchyroll, given that it recently finished merging with original series licensee Funimation and that it purchased Macross TV series licensee Nozomi Entertainment in 2022. All but a few OVA licenses are effectively under Sony's banner directly or indirectly, which makes it INCREDIBLY weird that Disney+ somehow ended up with the streaming rights.

I wonder if there's some business reason that Big West may not want to work with Sony. After all, CR purchased RS/Nozomi shortly after the big Macross announcements, and since that purchase, it's been almost radio silence out of Nozomi regarding the releases of 7, Frontier and Delta. We're coming up on almost two years since the announcements and still no physical release.