Favorite macross series?

[MythSearcher]

It is considered the best Macross title overall by Japanese fans as well, according to polls conducted by NHK in 2019.

I simply like how towards the ending, with Ranka being controlled and singing DYRL but in a empty, hollow way that is void of emotion(good voice acting when singing), the comparison is the energetic but dying Sheryl singing Lion, where she "wants to survive". And DYRL's lyrics is also really fitting because of "not alone anymore" during that time is just opposite of Ranka's position, hence it echoes even harder. But is true that people are also trying to save her, so it also fits the theme.

[Mafty]

Agree, Frontier does a great job getting you emotionally invested in the characters. Delta has more trouble with this due to several characters coming off as underdeveloped. That being said the Delta movies fix a lot of these issues.

[Seto Kaiba]

It is considered the best Macross title overall by Japanese fans as well, according to polls conducted by NHK in 2019.

I simply like how towards the ending, with Ranka being controlled and singing DYRL but in a empty, hollow way that is void of emotion(good voice acting when singing), the comparison is the energetic but dying Sheryl singing Lion, where she "wants to survive". And DYRL's lyrics is also really fitting because of "not alone anymore" during that time is just opposite of Ranka's position, hence it echoes even harder. But is true that people are also trying to save her, so it also fits the theme.

When all's said and done, Macross Frontier really is just about the perfect Macross title. It balances the three main aspects of the franchise - the love triangle, transformable fighters, and music - almost perfectly. I say "almost" because Ranka did kind of get shortchanged in the series version of the story. It had a soundtrack packed to bursting with certified bangers, some of the best mechanical designs the franchise has ever had, and a top tier story that managed to tie it all together beautifully TWICE. It's no surprise that even ten years on a new Sheryl Nome single was was an attention-getter and that the promise of a Macross Frontier short got at least as many people in theaters for Macross Delta's second movie as having a second Delta movie did.

Macross Delta's biggest flaw, IMO, was that it tried so hard to be Macross Frontier 2 instead of doing its own thing the way every previous title had. So much of it was blatantly copied that it never really got to develop its own identity in a lot of places. Too many characters and set pieces were trying to sell themselves on the basis of "like the one in Frontier, but..." to really work well on their own with only minimal screen time to develop a frankly gigantic cast of almost twenty main characters.

[MythSearcher]

When all's said and done, Macross Frontier really is just about the perfect Macross title. It balances the three main aspects of the franchise - the love triangle, transformable fighters, and music - almost perfectly. I say "almost" because Ranka did kind of get shortchanged in the series version of the story. It had a soundtrack packed to bursting with certified bangers, some of the best mechanical designs the franchise has ever had, and a top tier story that managed to tie it all together beautifully TWICE. It's no surprise that even ten years on a new Sheryl Nome single was was an attention-getter and that the promise of a Macross Frontier short got at least as many people in theaters for Macross Delta's second movie as having a second Delta movie did. :lol:

The love triangle that kept as a triangle even after the end
"You are my wings!" said the main character with two girl friends.(iirc it was because the director and the script writer cannot agree on who to pick and the script writer added a lot of stuff to develop the opposite side's relations)

Macross Delta's biggest flaw, IMO, was that it tried so hard to be Macross Frontier 2 instead of doing its own thing the way every previous title had. So much of it was blatantly copied that it never really got to develop its own identity in a lot of places. Too many characters and set pieces were trying to sell themselves on the basis of "like the one in Frontier, but..." to really work well on their own with only minimal screen time to develop a frankly gigantic cast of almost twenty main characters.

Haven't watched Macross Delta ;9

[Seto Kaiba]

The love triangle that kept as a triangle even after the end
"You are my wings!" said the main character with two girl friends.(iirc it was because the director and the script writer cannot agree on who to pick and the script writer added a lot of stuff to develop the opposite side's relations)

Not quite. General director Shoji Kawamori and screenwriter Hiroyuki Yoshino were both in agreement that they didn't want to work towards a predetermined end. Kawamori was interested in preserving what he called the "live feeling" of the series and didn't want to force a conclusion on it, while Yoshino wanted to avoid writing the series in such a way that it's ending would become predictable by setting down the conclusion at the start.

Alto's TV series ending where he doesn't pick a girl was supposedly influenced by his voice actor, Yuichi Nakamura, who himself had essentially neglected romance in favor of pursuing his dream career as a voice actor when he was in high school. (I privately suspect it was partly influenced by the way the previous title had also not resolved its famously contentious love triangle, and to leave something for the inevitable movie.)

There were some rumors that there was infighting among the creative staff over which character was going to win the love triangle when the series was still airing, but that was actually a fan pretending to have insider knowledge and spreading baseless rumors. The whole thing turned into quite a scandal over on Macross World.

Haven't watched Macross Delta ;9

If / when you watch it, you will probably find the ending suspiciously familiar. You will probably find a lot of the series suspiciously familiar, come to that...

[Mafty]

Totally agree that Macross Frontier is the best series. It's hard to put into words exactly, the show as a whole is just very engaging. Even some more slice of life antics (one episode involves hijinks at the school) manages to be quite enjoyable(plus it also sets up some plot points).

Delta on the other hand can drag at times depending on what plot it follows. personally I find the most interesting plot line in Delta to be centered around the Kingdom of Windermere (not that they work at being overall sympathetic, just the plot and worldbuilding is rather interesting). TBF the second half of Delta picks up a bit more plot wise, and the movies honestly fix a lot of the issues.

[Seto Kaiba]

Delta on the other hand can drag at times depending on what plot it follows. personally I find the most interesting plot line in Delta to be centered around the Kingdom of Windermere (not that they work at being overall sympathetic, just the plot and worldbuilding is rather interesting). TBF the second half of Delta picks up a bit more plot wise, and the movies honestly fix a lot of the issues.

Macross Delta unfortunately did the very unwise thing of jettisoning several chunks of fairly important backstory into manga titles.

One thing that really helps the series as a whole is for the viewer to have read the Macross Delta Gaiden: White Knights of the Black Wing. The manga is only two volumes long, but it's set before and during Windermere IV's war of independence against the New UN Government in 2060 and it provides a lot of important backstory for the Windermerean side and particularly for the main Aerial Knights characters Keith, Roid, and Bogue. Not their best creative decision, IMO, but it's the only one of the gaiden mangas that really adds anything substantial to the story. The other is simply an entirely unrelated bit of exposition about the first Tactical Sound Unit that explicitly connects the concept to Sound Force and Macross 7.

Spoiler

The important bits White Knights of the Black Wing includes:

• A scene with King Grammier VI and military consultant Ernest Johnson discuss the Kingdom of the Wind's frustration with the New UN Gov't and the reasons that will ultimately drive Windermere IV to secede from the New UN Gov't. In true Macross from, both sides actually have perfectly valid reasons. King Grammier is concerned about his planet's slow economic growth as a primarily agricultural economy and his inability to exploit Windermere's one valuable resource (fold quartz) due to the New UN Gov't's extremely strict regulations. The New UN Gov't restricts the fold quartz trade for several well-founded reasons including the sources of fold quartz both being incredibly dangerous and the potential for the material to be used to create planet-killing weapons of mass destruction.
• Keith's reasons for being a bit of a blood knight come 2067, including having to distance himself from his family for political/succession reasons because he's the son of the King via a concubine and having seen seen his mentor, the previous White Knight of Darwent, die in the so-called Black Storm. (The destruction of the city of Carlyle via dimensional warhead.)
• Roid's humble origins as the son of a priest and his fascination with the ancient Protoculture who may be synonymous with his people's gods, as well as his guilt over having unknowingly facilitated the theft of the Star Singer relics that were used to create Mikumo Guynemer and the Siren Delta System.
• Bogue's happy childhood as the spoiled youngest child of a well-to-do family and a knight trainee, horribly derailed by the war of secession and the deaths of his family in the Black Storm.
• Where Hayate's pendant came from... it was purchased by his father from the Jussila merchant family, specifically from the one-day Aerial Knights Theo and Xao..

[pirx]

Seems that we will see Macroses on Disney+ in Europe before end of 2024.
Crossing fingers

[Seto Kaiba]

Apparently the new 4K Blu-ray of Macross: Do You Remember Love? being released in January of next year will have English subtitles.

[pirx]

Google says Macross'es are available on Disney+
https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/series ... KHXDYwL2uk
https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/series ... xTFbviL4Ck

Anyone can watch this? Which country? Japan only so far?
I am in Europe and i got "unavailable"
Links themselves have "en-gb" meaning .. UK+IRL? Can anyone from there check please?

[Seto Kaiba]

The rollout dates are different for each country.

Those links are for the UK, which got its first few Macross titles in July.

[yugioh54]

Macross 7 is back!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... ay/.216692

[Mafty]

Also all Macross series,movies and OVA's (except for the origional) are now on Disney+.(I'm not sure if it's all regions).

[Seto Kaiba]

Macross 7 is back!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... ay/.216692

That description might have a few errors in it.

I suspect they mean the concert ship Budoukan, which first appeared in Macross Dynamite 7, not the entertainment ship Hollywood that was fully operational at the start of the series well before song energy technology was properly implemented.

Also all Macross series,movies and OVA's (except for the origional) are now on Disney+.(I'm not sure if it's all regions).

Only in select regions.

They still have not been released in the US, for instance.

[pirx]

I think it's only Japan and UK so far.

[Mafty]

It is streaming in Canada as well.