i am new to modeling and i want to start off with cheap stuff. I was wondering if it was worth it to spend a little more to get the 1/100 instead of the 1/144. I dont care about the size but I do care about how detailed the model is. I was also wondering between the 1/144s if there was a difference between the Seed HG and the UCHG?
please and thank you.
difference between HG 1/144 and HG 1/100?
HGUCs tend to be more detailed. It is definitely more detailed and more poseable than:
-1/144 HG SEED
-1/100 HG line from the 90s (debatable, but HGUC does beat them in the poseability/durability section.)
-some 1/100 SEED.
Fact is, the larger HGUCs tend to be more like an MG in terms of construction. But a good chunk of 1/100 SEED kits will be better detailed than HGUCs like the Astray guys, Saviour, Akatsuki... So my list of which has the best detail, generalized:
1. MG
2. SEED 1/100
3. HGUC
4. HG 1/100 (G,GW,EW,X,Turn A)
5. HG 1/144 SEED
6. HG 1/144 EW
-1/144 HG SEED
-1/100 HG line from the 90s (debatable, but HGUC does beat them in the poseability/durability section.)
-some 1/100 SEED.
Fact is, the larger HGUCs tend to be more like an MG in terms of construction. But a good chunk of 1/100 SEED kits will be better detailed than HGUCs like the Astray guys, Saviour, Akatsuki... So my list of which has the best detail, generalized:
1. MG
2. SEED 1/100
3. HGUC
4. HG 1/100 (G,GW,EW,X,Turn A)
5. HG 1/144 SEED
6. HG 1/144 EW
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As for the HGUCs, I would recommend getting those kits that are manufactured from 2005 onwards IMHO, as those kits are way better in poseability, attriculation and detail compared to those manufactured back in 1999 when it first started. SEED 1/100 is the way to go if you are looking for a bigger size and decent details, furthermore the price isn't that costly. But in comparism between HGUC and SEED 1/100, I'd go for HGUC to it's poseability and attriculation. You can almost never go wrong with HGUC.
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thx for the quick replies
o wow I didnt know that the 1/144 seed were that bad. I bought a package off of ebay of 4 1/144 seed already and i have started on buidling the duel gundam. It didnt seem that bad especially after i hand painted it. Of course I am not done yet since hand painting with cheap michael acrylic paint isnt the most time saving way to construct so i cant really talk about the posibility.
maybe i should invest a little more money and buy the 1/100 seed figures since in my opinion the seed gundams look a lot cooler than the HGUC
btw how do u guys know when a gundam was made? LIke how can you tell if it was a recently released version or an old version?
o wow I didnt know that the 1/144 seed were that bad. I bought a package off of ebay of 4 1/144 seed already and i have started on buidling the duel gundam. It didnt seem that bad especially after i hand painted it. Of course I am not done yet since hand painting with cheap michael acrylic paint isnt the most time saving way to construct so i cant really talk about the posibility.
maybe i should invest a little more money and buy the 1/100 seed figures since in my opinion the seed gundams look a lot cooler than the HGUC
btw how do u guys know when a gundam was made? LIke how can you tell if it was a recently released version or an old version?
Check http://www.hlj.com for each model/figure/whatever they have a list of info at the top right, including when it was released.
Easy. One way is that whenever you obtain or look at a gundam model kit, the year it was released will be displayed mainly on the lower left corner of the box. 1/100 Savior for example will have the words "BANDAI 2006 MADE IN JAPAN" printed on the lower left corner. Another way is to obtain a Gundam model kit catalogue (which i did) and browse thru it. I too echo Mwulf's suggestion by going to HLJ or you could even check http://www.dalong.netikillzu wrote:btw how do u guys know when a gundam was made? LIke how can you tell if it was a recently released version or an old version?
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Well, it really depends on what kits you bought, since some are better than others. I, personally, rather like the SEED HG kits because they're pretty solid and I enjoy the designs; but yeah, in terms of overall execution, the HGUC kits are better.ikillzu wrote:o wow I didnt know that the 1/144 seed were that bad. I bought a package off of ebay of 4 1/144 seed already and i have started on buidling the duel gundam. It didnt seem that bad especially after i hand painted it. Of course I am not done yet since hand painting with cheap michael acrylic paint isnt the most time saving way to construct so i cant really talk about the posibility.
The big differences between SEED HG and HGUC kits boil down to join innovations, proportions, and plastic quality. Some of the SEED kits (notably, the Freedom) are a bit disproportionate, with a big head or odd lankiness; SEED kits are pretty boring on articulation, too, until you get into the later kits, like the Destiny and Akatsuki (the latter of which introduces a neat little shoulder joint); and in general, the HGUC kits have much better plastic quality, being neither too brittle or too flimsy (and on that note, I'll warn you about the Infinite Justice, since it's kind of soft).
Really, you just have to be aware of what SEED kits you should avoid. The Duel's a nice one; it was the first SEED kit I bought, and even though the Assault Shroud is kind of a letdown, it's still a good kit.
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I've only built three SEED kits (not counting MGs), and closely studied a fourth.
The 1/100 Providence is a beautiful kit for the price, with some very sharp (and occasionally clever) molding along with some very nice incidental detail. As the first non-MG 1/100 I'd purchased in a good 5 years, I found it excellent. Not perfect, certainly, but very very good.
The 1/100 Blitz was rather sloppier overall, and showed some signs of low-budgetitis. It's still a fine model kit with quite good posability. A bit less polished than the Prov, but still more than acceptable.
I've closely examined the 1/100 ZAKU Phantom (though I've yet to construct it), and it too looks like a solid offering, well beyond the level of the budget 1/100 kits that preceded it. The SEED 1/100s in general seem to have a fairly good amount of detail.
The 1/60 Freedom was my favorite of the bunch, despite its bad proportions and questionable mobility. Very solid within its limits, exceedingly well crafted, and about as finely detailed as HG-class kits ever get.
Oh, and I also have the 1/144 GOOhN, which is good and fine and the perfect example of an excellent no-budget kit.
So, my overall impression of the SEED line has been positive so far. When making a broad choice between UC and CE model kits, I personally think it comes down to a matter of preference. Of course, one line is still going strong and one line has been all but done for a while, so the newest tech will obviously be found in HGUC.
The 1/100 Providence is a beautiful kit for the price, with some very sharp (and occasionally clever) molding along with some very nice incidental detail. As the first non-MG 1/100 I'd purchased in a good 5 years, I found it excellent. Not perfect, certainly, but very very good.
The 1/100 Blitz was rather sloppier overall, and showed some signs of low-budgetitis. It's still a fine model kit with quite good posability. A bit less polished than the Prov, but still more than acceptable.
I've closely examined the 1/100 ZAKU Phantom (though I've yet to construct it), and it too looks like a solid offering, well beyond the level of the budget 1/100 kits that preceded it. The SEED 1/100s in general seem to have a fairly good amount of detail.
The 1/60 Freedom was my favorite of the bunch, despite its bad proportions and questionable mobility. Very solid within its limits, exceedingly well crafted, and about as finely detailed as HG-class kits ever get.
Oh, and I also have the 1/144 GOOhN, which is good and fine and the perfect example of an excellent no-budget kit.
So, my overall impression of the SEED line has been positive so far. When making a broad choice between UC and CE model kits, I personally think it comes down to a matter of preference. Of course, one line is still going strong and one line has been all but done for a while, so the newest tech will obviously be found in HGUC.
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you should definatly go with hguc not complex not simple and good detail i buy all of mine
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even crappy robots that blow up when the go to fast need love too (im looking at you zudah)
Many of the 1/144 high grade kits are very well detailed. However, I would ONLY recommend purchasing a 1/144 scale kit, if it is a high grade. Through personal experience, I can honestly say that the regular 1/144 kits are junk, and definitely not worth the money.
Even if you're a beginner, I don't see a problem with you working on a high grade 1/100. Most of these high grades are very well detailed, but shouldn't be intimidating for someone just starting out.
Even if you're a beginner, I don't see a problem with you working on a high grade 1/100. Most of these high grades are very well detailed, but shouldn't be intimidating for someone just starting out.
1/144 HG is for space-limited action-posing lovers, 1/100 HG is for space-liberated action posing lovers.
So if you are space-limited, go for 1/144 HGUC that comes from 2000 onward. But if not, go for 1/100 HG, but there will be no UC items there, just Wings, X, and SEED items. UC is MG exclusive, if i am not wrong.
So if you are space-limited, go for 1/144 HGUC that comes from 2000 onward. But if not, go for 1/100 HG, but there will be no UC items there, just Wings, X, and SEED items. UC is MG exclusive, if i am not wrong.
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There were quite a number of 1/100 UC kits before, I am not sure about availability though. For example, I have a 1/100 Non-MG Nu Gundam (click here for a pic) which was made around late 80's or early 90's, for a non-MG kit it looks very good out of the box, has very nice features such as fully posable Fin Funnels, cockpit hatch opens, protective armor behind the calves swivel up and down, etc. The mold is very good, and for that time, the color is quite very good. Other non-MG 1/100s also include RX-78 Gundam, F91 Gundam, Zeta Gundam, Double Zeta Gundam,Zenstrive wrote:1/144 HG is for space-limited action-posing lovers, 1/100 HG is for space-liberated action posing lovers.
So if you are space-limited, go for 1/144 HGUC that comes from 2000 onward. But if not, go for 1/100 HG, but there will be no UC items there, just Wings, X, and SEED items. UC is MG exclusive, if i am not wrong.
Hyaku Shiki, among others. Some older 1/100 kits might disappoint though in terms of engineering and mold, depending on the kit.
I started out with a MG Strike Freedom then branched out to HGUC, HG Seed and now PG.Blade01 wrote:Many of the 1/144 high grade kits are very well detailed. However, I would ONLY recommend purchasing a 1/144 scale kit, if it is a high grade. Through personal experience, I can honestly say that the regular 1/144 kits are junk, and definitely not worth the money.
Even if you're a beginner, I don't see a problem with you working on a high grade 1/100. Most of these high grades are very well detailed, but shouldn't be intimidating for someone just starting out.
I think the 1/144 HGUC did have a Space Eater and I have one to prove it.Zenstrive wrote:1/144 HG is for space-limited action-posing lovers, 1/100 HG is for space-liberated action posing lovers.
So if you are space-limited, go for 1/144 HGUC that comes from 2000 onward. But if not, go for 1/100 HG, but there will be no UC items there, just Wings, X, and SEED items. UC is MG exclusive, if i am not wrong.
I was hoping BanDai will produce a MG version of the Space Eater.
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I started out with the 1/100 red frame astray, it was an excellent kit and i screwed it up(didnt know any better back then). Then I kept building 1/100 SEED until i got a 1/144 murasame. It made me appreciate how detailed and greated quality 1/100s are. The 1/100 strike freedom though changed my mind, it was not that good. I finally built a MG and it was the aile strike. The articulation and pose ability rocked and it just changed my views. Too bad the aile striker wings are messed up(my fault i think).
1/144 HG are there to collect if you are on a budget, 1/100 SEED are nice if you want bigger versions, and 1/100 MG are just great! I found that trying out crappy kits first and then going to better ones like MG makes you appreciate how great a MG or PG kit actually is.
1/144 HG are there to collect if you are on a budget, 1/100 SEED are nice if you want bigger versions, and 1/100 MG are just great! I found that trying out crappy kits first and then going to better ones like MG makes you appreciate how great a MG or PG kit actually is.