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I've just been watching wing, but am a major UC fan. I think that there may be newtypes in the wing. We've already seen evidence of Newtypes, or at least those with extra spatial awareness in SEED; however certain events in Wing strike me as newtypish even with the classic sound. For example the part where Lady Une wakes up, senses somethings wrong, and takes the 01 to block the libra cannon. I think this has happened to Quatre, Noin and Zechs too.
Also in turn A, we all know that the Turn X requires a psychommu too work so maybe Gym is a possible newtype?
Hints of Newtypes in AU?
I can't speak for Turn-A Gundam as I have not seen it, but I have seen all of the other ones, and the only AU that has any instance of newtypes like in the UC, is the AW universe of Gundam X.
Anything else is coincidental similarity, nothing more. Yeah, even the CE. Fukuda handled the concept so poorly, that it is easier if there is no instance of it happening at all.
"What about Mu, Rau, and Rey?" I would chalk that up to family/clone closeness more than anything else as any other time there were no instance of newtype powers or anything like it. Trying to make any sense of why Kira was shown with the newtype flash is enough to hurt your brain in the process because of how it's so badly done.
Anything else is coincidental similarity, nothing more. Yeah, even the CE. Fukuda handled the concept so poorly, that it is easier if there is no instance of it happening at all.
"What about Mu, Rau, and Rey?" I would chalk that up to family/clone closeness more than anything else as any other time there were no instance of newtype powers or anything like it. Trying to make any sense of why Kira was shown with the newtype flash is enough to hurt your brain in the process because of how it's so badly done.
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One of the many legends of Gundam Wing is that, in the production phase, Wu Fei was slated to be a Newtype but the concept was dropped. However, some merchandise still bears this information; my GF has a pencil board that lists him as such.
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Bit of a tid bit: In the SD Gundam games, Mu as listed as a Newtype
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No, because there are other "Newtypes" out there besides the ones in the La Fllaga family. Morgan Chevalier (no, Morgan, I didn't forget you, but everyone else is...there there, put the Smirnoff down...) and Kira Yamato come to mind, and there were a whole slew of Mobius Zero pilots that presumably had the same powers as Mwu, until they got wiped out at Endiymon Crater. SEED's explanation is just that they have "spatial awareness powers."
If you're talking about AC, I don't think there are any newtypes there... but there's Quatre's "space heart..." I think it was awakened when his dad died, I'm not so sure. It made him sensitive to stuff around him, much like a Newtype but only more vague in terms of abilities, etc...
Maybe Quatre has just high spatial awareness. I don't know about Valder Farkill, since he can control the Hydra Gundam's wire-guided claws.
Maybe Quatre has just high spatial awareness. I don't know about Valder Farkill, since he can control the Hydra Gundam's wire-guided claws.
At varying points, they've also listed Quatre and the Barnett brothers from G-Unit as Newtypes. Interestingly, though, the Frost brothers aren't.Yuusha Tokkyu Might Gaine wrote:Bit of a tid bit: In the SD Gundam games, Mu as listed as a Newtype
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Category F's couldn't even use the flash system which was used by the UNE (both Old and New) to control bit mobile suits. That inability was the apparent reason behind the Frost Brother's (relatively) poor treatment by the New UNE and the resulting bitterness on their part. From what I gathered, the only real power a Category F had was telepathy.
The CE "newtypes" could use remote weapons and had those "flashes", but I'm not sure about anything beyond that.
The CE "newtypes" could use remote weapons and had those "flashes", but I'm not sure about anything beyond that.
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However, Flash System is variant of UC Psycommu system, allow user to control remote weapon with mind. Early CE remote weapon, both gunbarrel and DRAGOON, are manual control (similar to AOZ's winch unit or Contio's shot claw) that only need spartial awareness for effectively use. And next generation CE remote weapon, which become thought-control system, is closer to UC wireless quasi-psycommu system (Rig Contio's show claw?).Destroy Gundam wrote:Category F's couldn't even use the flash system which was used by the UNE (both Old and New) to control bit mobile suits. That inability was the apparent reason behind the Frost Brother's (relatively) poor treatment by the New UNE and the resulting bitterness on their part. From what I gathered, the only real power a Category F had was telepathy.
The CE "newtypes" could use remote weapons and had those "flashes", but I'm not sure about anything beyond that.
In that sense, if we transfer them into other timeline. Frosty Boys may able to use gunbarrel as good as Mu (no psychowave transmission need). And Rau may fail to make G-Bit move too (too weak psychowave to be effective). Of cause, it's still just speculation on my part.
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Games aren't exactly the most reliable of sources since they aren't canon, but they do provide hints. The Barnett brothers do have some special "bond" like the Frost brothers have, something that lets them sense each other. Though maybe it's something that only close related people have, like Mu and Rau. Perhaps it's in the genes.AmuroNT1 wrote:At varying points, they've also listed Quatre and the Barnett brothers from G-Unit as Newtypes. Interestingly, though, the Frost brothers aren't.Yuusha Tokkyu Might Gaine wrote:Bit of a tid bit: In the SD Gundam games, Mu as listed as a Newtype
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Newtypes are only referenced in every other timeline with the occasional hearing or seeing of the newtype flash. SEED, have no clue, but definitely not Newtype. X and UC as I see it are the only ones with Newtypes present.
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While we're at it, let's make Lacus and Relena Newtypes as wellauriga wrote:... And the one I heard had some manga saying that Zechs was a Newtype.One of the many legends of Gundam Wing is that, in the production phase, Wu Fei was slated to be a Newtype but the concept was dropped.
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NO!Albireo_818 wrote: While we're at it, let's make Lacus and Relena Newtypes as well
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But speaking of Category F's...what does the F stand for? My best guess is Failure, which would explain why they hate being called it. Sort of like the "N" Word for superminded people.
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The whole problem with guessing who's a newtype or not is made difficult because I don't think anyone could give an absolute definition. Characters like Amuro, Camille, and Judau and perhaps the poster boys for Newtypes and have the label branded on them. Excluding X, there is no exact identification for newtypes. Mwu, LeCruset, and the whole La Flaga family could just as easily be considered category F as they're powers go no further than inter family communication. And based on Gundam X, just because you can flash, doesn't mean you're a newtype, or at least in the book of the Frost Brothers. So far, unless you're given the label, you're either a run of the mill oldtype or some sort of freak.
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i thought F stood for fake.ORegan wrote:But speaking of Category F's...what does the F stand for? My best guess is Failure, which would explain why they hate being called it. Sort of like the "N" Word for superminded people.
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