The Complete Flight Path of the White Base in MSG

[Amuro Ray]

I'm trying to make a video that shows this flight path from the beginning of the show all the way to the end. Can someone tell the whole path by episode? I've got some parts down but there are a few holes.

[Wingnut]

http://www.gundam.jp/special/wb_index.html
For some reason this is incomplete, but the path is accurate of White Base's journey throughout the series.

[toysdream]

http://www.gundam.jp/special/wb_index.html
For some reason this is incomplete, but the path is accurate of White Base's journey throughout the series.

Well, almost accurate. In the TV series, we see onscreen maps showing us that the White Base detours through Turkey after defeating Ramba Ral, and its first encounter with the Black Tri-Stars takes place on the south shore of the Black Sea. This map shows the White Base going straight from the Caspian Sea to Odessa, as per the movies.

-- Mark

[Nightingale]

http://www.gundam.jp/special/wb_index.html
For some reason this is incomplete, but the path is accurate of White Base's journey throughout the series.

Do you mean that it's missing some waypoints? If not, it seems to form the complete path and start & end at all the right places.

[Kavik Ryx]

I was under the impression the the White Base defeated Garma in New York rather than Seattle. Which one is it?

[toysdream]

Seattle is definitely the current consensus, especially since the White Base descends to Earth over the eastern United States, passes through the Grand - uh, Great - Canyon, and then crosses the Pacific Ocean. New York isn't really between those last two points.

-- Mark

[mcred23]

I was under the impression the the White Base defeated Garma in New York rather than Seattle. Which one is it?

Well, seeing how there is no New York in the Universal Century, Garma obviously could never die there.

But nah, as Mark's timeline puts it, the consensus is that Garma is killed in Seattle and not in New Yark (Although an older source or version of events probably placed his death there).

EDIT: Holy Barzams! Ninja'd by the Almighty Himself!

[Nightingale]

(Although an older source or version of events probably placed his death there).

What's the general consensus on the coherence and intellectual ambitiousness of Mobile Suit Gundam's world-building and internal logic/internal science?

[toysdream]

What's the general consensus on the coherence and intellectual ambitiousness of Mobile Suit Gundam's world-building and internal logic/internal science?

That's a big question! Three or four big questions, in fact. As for the "general consensus," that's a whole other bucket of worms; most fans, whether in Japan or in the West, tend to assume that the Gundam world is a lot more coherent and consistent than it really is. So the "general consensus" would be that it's totally coherent, but in fact it really isn't.

As for "intellectual ambitiousness," I'm not sure quite what you're asking here, or what it has to do with the White Base route map.

-- Mark

[Koshernova]

I have one of the old Roman albums that shows the path of the White Base. Moreover, each waypoint, as you put it, is numbered after the episode which takes place there.

Now, bear in mind by now they may have retconned that, but at least that album probably shows the original intention used when writing the show. Am I right here, Mister Mark Sir?

[Gelgoog Jager]

This page popped out in another topic, click on the image, White Base's path is the pink line:

http://www.gundamuniverse.it/gundamworld/odessa.htm

[Amuro Ray]

Thanks a lot for the maps. There were definitely some conflicts when I was looking at the maps and watching the TV series like the location of Garma's death. The reviews here say it was New York and Ultimate Mark's timeline says Seattle.

This page popped out in another topic, click on the image, White Base's path is the pink line:

http://www.gundamuniverse.it/gundamworld/odessa.htm

It looks like this is a zoomed part of the path.

Seattle is definitely the current consensus, especially since the White Base descends to Earth over the eastern United States, passes through the Grand - uh, Great - Canyon, and then crosses the Pacific Ocean. New York isn't really between those last two points.

-- Mark

You said that they descend to Earth in the eastern part of the US but the Flash map says that they land in North Africa. Is it different because they land in different places in the movie or is it another one of those conflicts? What would the be consensus with this conflict?

[mcred23]

I believe the map is showing the point they began to enter the atmosphere, as they didn't make landfall until they reached North America in either version of MSG (Africa isn't seen at all in any version of MSG).

[manmiles]

What always gets me is that in travelling to Jaburo (located in South America) the White Base effectively travels in a completly opposite direction, circles the entire globe until they reach Dublin and then heard south to Jaburo. Ok, it's to span out the series, but that is one hell of a wacky scenic-route!

[mcred23]

Well, a chunk of that was so they could take part in Operation Odessa, and IIRC the Zeon blocked several attempts by them early on to head for Jaburo or something like that. But yeah, still pretty scenic.