*coughsStrikeGundamcoughcough*flamingtroll wrote:Except there has yet to be multiple MG iterations (I honestly think Freedom and Strike Freedom is the samething, not to mention various versions of them), various scales HG or just normal grade, MSIA and so on of the Astray Gundams and the 5 GAT-X.
And you kinda opened yourself up when you called SF and Freedom the 'same thing', ya know. But moving on...
And what the heck does having multiple iterations of models have to do with the topic of Okie's creativity? The answer is it has absolutely nothing to do with the debate whatsoever.Which mean Okawara wins again in doing a good job in doing what Bandai would want- a design that sells. Your reasoning would apply to any suits that look different in any series. They approved things like Babi, Zno and all kinds of fugtacular things. That doesn't mean Sunrise suddenly approve of "original" designs.
You're saying that Sunrise has such huge control over Okie that they practically control his every move down to the very last panel line, which is simply not true. As I said, if that were truly the case, either the rest of the designs followed suit with the GAT-X series, or the original 5 would've looked even more like the current batch of Gundams as opposed to the various Victory/X/Wing/F-91 designs. So based on that, the reason for Okie's designs being the way they are has very much the way Okie's creativity.
Whether those designs sell or not is something else entirely altogether (although the many boxes of SEED D models priced at 500 yen lying around shop floors says quite alot). If Sunrise gives the nod to have those 'fugtacular' designs approve, then that's an issue with Sunrise decision making as opposed to Okie's drawing ability. If Bandai feels there should be many iterations of Freedom and Strike Freedom, then that's also their decision to make.
He removed panel lines and details, covered up the exposed frames and literally inserted legs and stylings akin to F-91 or Wing onto them. I will give him credit for the fact that the druggy trio Gundams look more unique the way the ZAKU does, but the Okie stylings are still very noticeable compared to the original 5 designs, particularly with the limbs.And IMO, The Okawara gundams followed GAT-X's designs pretty well, due to probably the fact that he also cleaned up the original 5, which allow their styles to blend better together.
Their proportions are different only because that's Okie's drawing style as opposed to someone telling him to, say, draw their feet huge. That, plus the fact that we're merely looking at just one rough draft as opposed to all of them. Again, clean-up is about making the rough drafts presentable for animation purposes so that it would act as a guide to the different animators who have the daunting task of drawing the designs out consistently. In other words, Okie basically took the roughs, followed the notes, and copied it as according to designer's guidelines. Any sort of consistent 'flow' between designs simple means that all the twenty plus animators or so would end up being able to draw out the Gundam exactly the same as each other.Not just that. The perfect example would be the original sketches of the 5 GAT-X that was posed not too long ago and the resulting line art of the actual thing. Their proportions and some details are quite different from what you see in the final product due to the different styles. Just look at the legs and the head proportion for example. The head design is also somewhat modified to have a more conformed "gundam face" style.