wing zero alpha wrote:I've seen it several other times, but that scene in particular cracked me up because it kept switching to the different camera angles and colors.
Reminds me of the scene from Kung Pow:
Master Betty - "I am a great magician! Now your clothes are RED."
There's plenty of instances during first Gundam where animation of the Gundam launching or moving is reused and the wrong weapon is in it's hands, similar to the above mentioned beam rifle toting GM at Jaburo.
I guess this isn't an error, per se, more an oddity, and certainly a "legend" amongst the Gundam fanbase-
In the final episode of Gundam Wing, while fighting with Epyon, Wing Zero suddenly comes under fire from vulcan/machine gun fire from an unknown source.
They are alone in the area and Epyon has previously shown no evidence of possessing vulcan guns in the series. In fact, it purposely has no long-range weapons- Trieze built it that way.
There's a scene during operation Spit Break where a CGUE lands in the hangar/whatever that Mwu is in, the pilot says something and the squad moves in, and when we see it running past the fighter Mwu borrows, it's colored like a DINN instead of a CGUE.
REGENE: (Grins) Any last words, Buuuuur-ing?
(Bring just grits his teeth and the Garazzo’s escape pod breaks off from its main body, flying straight up.)
REGENE: (Shakes head) Right then. Forgot we don’t talk on Planet You.
Thundermuffin wrote:I guess this isn't an error, per se, more an oddity, and certainly a "legend" amongst the Gundam fanbase-
In the final episode of Gundam Wing, while fighting with Epyon, Wing Zero suddenly comes under fire from vulcan/machine gun fire from an unknown source.
They are alone in the area and Epyon has previously shown no evidence of possessing vulcan guns in the series. In fact, it purposely has no long-range weapons- Trieze built it that way.
So what shot at Zero?
I knew someone would bring this up eventually. Well your answer is Epyon, Epyon shot at Wing Zero. They've "fixed" this recently. Basically what happened is for the final battle Epyon was given some special equipment, vulcans. And well you can see where it goes from there.
Tomino just had it pulled from the series due to horrid animation quality. If you can scrounge up a 43-episode bootleg of the series somewhere, you'll be able to see it for yourself. It's just plain bad.
And as for the Epyon Vulcans, I figure Zechs was enough of a jerk to install vulcan cannons on the Epyon somehow without even telling the writing staff.
Mark064 wrote:Never heard that before, and if that was the "offical" excuse I'm happy they changed it because that is totally silly.
Any more silly than having vulcans magically installed in the Epyon's head? Forget all the changes to the head to house them, Treize must be shaking his head in the afterlife.
razgriz wrote:horrible even compared with the rest of FG? wow that must be bad
Yep, the animation quality is that bad (the resident Zaku in the episode looks as thin as a Zudah), although I'm not sure if Tomino had the episode just for the animation.
razgriz wrote:horrible even compared with the rest of FG? wow that must be bad
How bad is it? there's a scene where Gundam launches, as it descends it somehow switches from a beam rifle, to a hyper bazooka, back to a beam rifle! Not to mention" Mobile Suit Martial Arts", but that was cool in it's own way if a bit goofy.
wing zero alpha wrote:Any more silly than having vulcans magically installed in the Epyon's head? Forget all the changes to the head to house them, Treize must be shaking his head in the afterlife.
Clearly yes. First of all bullets don't just magically bounce of walls in perfect allignment to return back and hit the original target in the shield, more so while moving! Other then that, any changes to installing vulcans would be simplistic, I don't think we know if it's in the head or shoulders. Such tasks are quite simple in the Gundam Universe when you got armies of engineers. Treize can shake his head all he want, he has nothing to do with it anymore.
Mark064 wrote:Clearly yes. First of all bullets don't just magically bounce of walls in perfect allignment to return back and hit the original target in the shield, more so while moving! Other then that, any changes to installing vulcans would be simplistic, I don't think we know if it's in the head or shoulders. Such tasks are quite simple in the Gundam Universe when you got armies of engineers. Treize can shake his head all he want, he has nothing to do with it anymore.
Uh-huh. Bad enough that there were no vulcan pods or visible gun barrels sticking out anywhere on the Epyon, but Zechs going to the trouble of installing a weapon that will barely give him any advantage as well as only using it at one time is still pretty farfetched. All in all, both claims are pretty much BS.
And on that note, is it just me or do these "official explanations" make these scenes all the more dubious?
hmm im not sure where but i heard somewhere that tomino didnt like the fact that the powerful rx-78-2 was reduced to sitting on its hands and knees like an infant in that "infamous" episode. were the animators just extra lazy that day or what?
setsuna: I AM A GUNDAM!!!
graham: I AM A FLAG!!!
(setsuna giggling)
graham: NO!! i said FLLLAG!
wing zero alpha wrote:And for a major goof, there's that infamous scene in Gundam SEED Destiny where they forgot to edit in the Impulse over the Strike Gundam when they reused that cel.
that episode was just full of quirks, wasnt there the shot of the "fat" strike rouge too?
Not so much the episode then the battle. That screenshot takes place at the end of episode 22 and the rest glitches appear in episode 23. I don't remember any fat strike rouge but i know they switched Kira's seed color to Athruns. Thankfully all was corrected on the DVDs.
The color of the SEED that appears is different from person to person. IIRC, it matches their eye color.
REGENE: (Grins) Any last words, Buuuuur-ing?
(Bring just grits his teeth and the Garazzo’s escape pod breaks off from its main body, flying straight up.)
REGENE: (Shakes head) Right then. Forgot we don’t talk on Planet You.
Another plot oversight from the Destiny Special Editions-
They removed the scene where the Destiny runs out of power and has to return to the Minerva for resupply at the Orb battle. Thusly, Destiny continues to fight with Strike Freedom and Legend launches alone from the Minerva to give the Destiny aid.
That closes out the third SE, when the fourth SE starts, Strike Freedom is fighting Destiny and Legend.
Destiny suddenly has all its weapons again, when it had previously lost the boomerangs and the ASSword fighting Freedom earlier. Did it dive into the ocean and retrieve its weapons in-between movies?