It should be noted that I saw a picture/screenshot awhile back that I recall showed Rei holding something red. This was maybe six weeks ago, and I don't remember it very clearly. I submit.Melchior wrote:As has been stated a few times now, Shinji didn't save Asuka, Asuka saved herself. And you clearly don't remember it very well, because you talk about Rei holding an orb of LCL at the end. That never happened. At the end, Rei is dead (or her giant body is anyway, and the orb you're referring to was from before she died. It wasn't an "orb of LCL" either. It's the black moon filled with the souls of every living being, theres no LCL involved at all.You're right, its been two or three years since I've seen EoE, but I think I remember enough to have a solid opinion of it. I see Shinji on a beach with some girl that may or may not be Asuka(depending on how you interpret that scene), and there's a giant Rei-thing holding an orb of LCL, which is what is left of mankind, apparently. The conclusion I draw? That Shinji saved himself and Asuka and left everyone else out to dry.
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In the ending mankind reunited with the giant Rei, the mother of all mankind, which is likely to be made LCL of some sort as well as going into the black moon, which is also likely to be filled with LCL anyway. Since by that time everything has pretty much gone super/meta-physical, it is actually quite hard to tell where things are physically. But you can clearly see those "souls" going into Rei's vaginal opening in the hands.
From what I can understand from the movie. Shinji "saved" Asuka pretty much by killing Rei, and re-release all the souls from within. I am pretty sure Asuka chose to return to her human form herself though.
From what I can understand from the movie. Shinji "saved" Asuka pretty much by killing Rei, and re-release all the souls from within. I am pretty sure Asuka chose to return to her human form herself though.
As far as the original topic is concerned, while it's not making me jump up and down for joy seeing as I'm not a hardcore Eva fan, I have to admit that I'm liking what I see as far as animation goes. It's one of the few things from Eva that actually makes me curious enough to want to eventually watch.
And I am also of the opinion that while the destruction of the giant Rei through Shinji's choice had a part in this, it was still Asuka's will that allowed her to return to her human form, not Shinji 'saving' her.
And I am also of the opinion that while the destruction of the giant Rei through Shinji's choice had a part in this, it was still Asuka's will that allowed her to return to her human form, not Shinji 'saving' her.
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yeah, did not expect a quote war to burst out of this so easily, i was just wondering what everyone thought bout the new movie. I haven't seen EoE in a while but I agree that it was, out there, to be polite. Take it for what it's worth, but the wiki article says that these movies are suppose to be more accessible to non-fans, so hopefully the new ending in the 4th movie won't be as odd as what we now have in EoE.
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Blah! Gotta disagree here. The End of Eva (and Death & Rebirth) commentary with the ADV people is one of the worst things I've ever heard. Amanda Winn & company are so clueless not just with respect to Eva but anime in general. Whether its "the main theme of Eva is sex", "there's no word for 'I' in Japanese" (actually I can think of at least 6 or 7), AW confusing kanji with katakana, "Anno made EOE as revenge on the fans", or AW's poor reasoning for making notable changes with the soundtrack, it's something I'll never forget, its that bad.Watch it with the commentary. It's hilarious. Changes the whole perspective of the film.
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Maybe he means that the commentary is so horrible it's funny.
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It's hilarious for various reasons. "So horrible it's funny" is one way to look at it, but I didn't find it funny for that reason. I mostly liked how they have a fun time, making crude jokes and comments on something that's supposed to be anything but funny. "Maybe Maya realized her sexuality when she was fingered by Rei" made me laugh for a good minute.
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I personally enjoyed the EVA Movie commentary. However, it wasn't an ADV commentary - it was Manga Entertainment.
Amanda Winn-Lee went off and actually made her own production company, with the help of Jason Lee. This is the production company that got the job from Manga, so they could enlist everyone from the ADV dub that they could.
However, I personally enjoyed the commentary. As Anno said in a director's interview, "Evangelion is what you make of it," which is why there's still no official storyline for Evangelion.
It was fun seeing another's interpretation of the events, as well as just plain ripping into the movie - not to mention the actual things many of the references could have been based on (and in some cases, were).
It's not like they were saying 'this is what Evangelion is,' it was 'Yeah, this is just our view on EVA. Take it as you will.'
And considering Amanda Winn-Lee personally worked on the translation of the script for the EVA movies, I think she actually knew more than you guys give her credit for.
Amanda Winn-Lee went off and actually made her own production company, with the help of Jason Lee. This is the production company that got the job from Manga, so they could enlist everyone from the ADV dub that they could.
However, I personally enjoyed the commentary. As Anno said in a director's interview, "Evangelion is what you make of it," which is why there's still no official storyline for Evangelion.
It was fun seeing another's interpretation of the events, as well as just plain ripping into the movie - not to mention the actual things many of the references could have been based on (and in some cases, were).
It's not like they were saying 'this is what Evangelion is,' it was 'Yeah, this is just our view on EVA. Take it as you will.'
And considering Amanda Winn-Lee personally worked on the translation of the script for the EVA movies, I think she actually knew more than you guys give her credit for.
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sorry for bringin this back from the dead, but after rewatching evangelion, a question popped in my head. What is the significance of unit 01 being created from lilith rather than adam. does this somehow make it better for instrumentality?
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Unit 01 was the substitute for Lilith so they could still carry out instrumentalityXenturion6789 wrote:sorry for bringin this back from the dead, but after rewatching evangelion, a question popped in my head. What is the significance of unit 01 being created from lilith rather than adam. does this somehow make it better for instrumentality?
even without her. That was the reason Seele was so concerned with Unit 01 over the other Eva units in EoE.
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He seems to be the pilot of the new Eva-06, which has its own distinct face design, with a visor, rather than visible eyes, and looks nothing like the MP Evas.razgriz wrote:hmmm since kaowru is going to be intro'd so soon i wonder if he might be doing some actual eva piloting this time around. just hope they dont stick him in those fugly mp-evas (well ugly but effective)
I doubt that. They're also introducing a new girl character, who they've been hyping since the first rebuild promo. There's no way they'll give no focus to them.I think there only going to change the ending Kaworus inclusion will probably be a sidestory....and will cause the destruction of EVAS 5+6.
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Kaworu DOES do Eva piloting in Yoshiyuki Sadamoto's manga, piloting the Eva-02 (as he was intended to do in the TV show) against the angel Armisael.razgriz wrote:hmmm since kaowru is going to be intro'd so soon i wonder if he might be doing some actual eva piloting this time around. just hope they dont stick him in those fugly mp-evas (well ugly but effective)