Mecha Talk

HI there!
I'm new to this forum so please be kind.
I've read the astray manga and I'm wondering who are the the guys that pilot the other mobile suits that the Sahaku twins (are they twins?) have.
They seem like they're clones and all have long off-white hair.
If they are clones, who are they clones off? Mu's father, another person with spatial awareness or a coordinator?
Thanks!

I heard that they're pretty much the CE's equivlent of the Murasame clones

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The Murasames weren't clones, unless you mean the Ples.

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I believe that you are referring to the Socius clones. From what I can remember, they are clones of Goud Veia.

Note: One thing that I wondered if someone can check... I've seen information everywhere saying that the coordinator-combat training group is known as Socius... isn't this suppose to be "circus" as revealed in Destiny Astray (the place where Kaite and Ile de Llorar were from)? I don't recall another group called Socius anywhere... (damn Wikipedia).

Are all of the Sahakus' pilots clones, or do they also have some normal Orb pilots among their followers? Because IIRC, Mina had at least 40-50 mobile suits at Ame-no-Mihashira.

I would imagine they've got non-clone pilots too, since they'd clearly have some Orb military personnel under their command (if nothing else, the Izumo's crew).

I imagine the Socius are just the pilots of the Druggie variant MS, while loyal ORBies are in the M1As.

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I wasn't aware the Murasames wern't clones. In that case, yes the ples then

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I don't mean to go off topic but, the Murasames were given numbers because they were the (insert # here) person born at the institute. Four even said it herself. And that brings up another intruiging question, but lets keep that can of worms closed...

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I believe Circus and Socius are two different groups/organazations, as both Kaite and Ile seem to keep a cross on their suits signifying they left circus after those handicapped fights.

Gai was part of the Socius project as well, however he escaped.
Goud might have been part of the SP, it's a possibility with one of his personalitys being an incredible pilot, or maybe that is natural skill; or maybe he just submitted some DNA.
I would think that the Socius' pilot the two Long Daggers, the Raider Full Spec, the Sword Calamity, and the Forbidden Blue. Then other pilots use the M1's and M1A's.

There were a bunch of Socius clones, personally I would love to know how many.
11 and (7 was it) escaped with Long Daggers, and then later went on the run(I'm going on what I hear not hard solid granite fact) 8 died and was killed by Providence as I remember.

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Actually I believe Eight was killed by Orga, Shani and Clotho during a test flight. I believe this was the reason why Seven and Eleven went AWOL.



Didn't Mina only receive three Socius? Four pilots the Sword Calamity, while Six and Thirteen pilot the Raider full spec and the Forbidden Blue (I don't know which pilots which suit). While in space, the Socius that pilots the Blue switches to an M1A. I also noticed the Raider full spec they use seems to have had a slight modification to make it space worthy (just a couple extra verniers added).