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Soma Taozi
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:30 pm |
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Wow...a lot of negativity (or disappointment) and only after a few episodes. Is it like this for every gundam series? And I thought AGE was special  Personally I have noticed quite a bit of differences. But one that wasn't mentioned before was that after Olor's suit disabled the Earth Alliance ship and it crashed into the colony...Mu defeating him was purely new. Seriously watch that clip and you will see Mu kicking Olor's ass in HD, new animation, awesomeness. Not many big changes true, but this is basically what I expected. They are remastering seed folks, not redoing it. But hey, we will see where this goes? We haven't really got into any of the stock footage heavy episodes yet, so who knows? I am keeping my fingers crossed, mind open, and eyes glued to the screen. But it seems like people are focusing more on what they didn't change to what they did.
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Chris
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:42 pm |
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Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:20 pm Posts: 4319 Location: Miami, FL
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I'm not watching SEED HD and thus have no interest in what is changed or isn't changed. My problem is cropping it to make it in fake widescreen. It's not true to the original and is cutting out footage, made even worse by the ridiculous price for the Blu-ray sets.
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HellCat
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:16 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:24 am Posts: 705
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AmuroNT1 wrote: The one that really gets me is a screencap that was posted to /m/ comparing a simple scene of Kira talking. Looking at them side-by-side, I honestly prefer the older one; it looks just fine without needing to be remastered, but on top of that the character design was changed to the later look, meaning that whatever distinct traits Kira had at first were removed and replaced with the same rounded generic Hisashi Hirai face that's become such a meme with anime fans. I guess it just goes to show that new isn't automatically improved. They've been doing that since the SE's. Compare the 'Don't act friendly with me!' canteen scene between TV and the SE. The TV version might be slightly rough and off model but there's actually clear emotion on the character's faces, not 'Our eyes look like a stained glass church window!'.
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HellCat
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:04 pm |
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| Elitist Earth Politician |
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:24 am Posts: 705
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I'm surprised they didn't redo the 'Kira Yamato to the bridge!' moment of Miriallia in episode 4. I mean, that bug eyed scene is clearly awkward.
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teslashark
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:42 am |
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| Pilot's Doomed Girlfriend |
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Chris wrote: I'm not watching SEED HD and thus have no interest in what is changed or isn't changed. My problem is cropping it to make it in fake widescreen. It's not true to the original and is cutting out footage, made even worse by the ridiculous price for the Blu-ray sets. May I suggest you... BitTorrent 
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Amadi Akintunde
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:35 am |
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| Elitist Earth Politician |
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teslashark wrote: Chris wrote: I'm not watching SEED HD and thus have no interest in what is changed or isn't changed. My problem is cropping it to make it in fake widescreen. It's not true to the original and is cutting out footage, made even worse by the ridiculous price for the Blu-ray sets. May I suggest you... BitTorrent  YOU FOOL Rescind your comment, now! Before it's too late!
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Calubin_175
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:05 am |
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| Elitist Earth Politician |
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:06 pm Posts: 696
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By the way, could anyone help me identify where the animation error with the Strike wielding two rifles came from?
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HellCat
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:09 pm |
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| Elitist Earth Politician |
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Episode 5....why did the various counts of off model animation not get touched up? This is one episode that really would have benefited. I guess it's more important to redo shots of Murrue.
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Dark Duel
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:42 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:39 pm Posts: 4071 Location: A blue City in a red State
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Oh WOW. I stopped watching this after episode 2. Maybe I should get caught up, I guess  .
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HellCat
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:20 pm |
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I have to admit that in watching this the redone scenes are barely registering with me. It's been a good 7 years since I last watched SEED so I don't really have a great reference to work from.
That said, I am enjoying the story. Most of us tend to give CE alot of flack but these early episodes are holding up well. A good example- in episode 6, I like the scene where Murrue plays along with Mu's gambit to get out of the room whilst Natarle stares at them dumbfounded. It's a nice subtle moment that shows the relationship between these 3 characters which obviously goes further later.
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farjad93
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:02 pm |
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Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:54 pm Posts: 100 Location: Planet Earth
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I honestly don't get a lot of the hate the CE universe gets. Sure, Gundam Seed Destiny had plenty of problems with the teenage drama and all. But the original series (Mobile Suit Gundam SEED) is definitely one of my favorite Gundam series of all time. I feel it introduced many interesting concepts (Coordinators, for example) that hadn't been done before in a Gundam series. Also, I liked the characters in it and thought it told an excellent story. Also, the deaths, I felt, were also handled pretty well.
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Strike Zero
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:41 pm |
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Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:49 pm Posts: 3151 Location: Becoming a Gundam
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I think you'll find that a lot of people will agree with you in that they don't really have that big of an issue with SEED and dislike only DESTINY. That's not to say SEED didn't have it's share of problems but, depending on who you ask, they're not nearly as grating or numerous as DESTINY's.
Then of course, you'll also find people that hate all of the CE-verse on principle simply because it's "NOT YOO-SEE" or for other equally inane reasons. It's the internet, it comes with the territory.
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farjad93
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:01 pm |
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Yeah, I suppose you're right, haha. I like this forum site because the rules seem to actually be enforced and so any discussions remain intelligent and civil 
_________________ REY: Kira Yamato, your existence must end! KIRA: Like I haven’t heard that before…on countless Gundam message boards.
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HellCat
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:12 pm |
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I think Strike Zero sums it up. I remember when SEED originally ended I was hopeful for a sequel but was incredibly dissapointed with what we got in Destiny. SEED isn't my absolute favourite but it's a good story and has some memorable characters. I certainly imagine other shows would have just shoved Yzak into a corner, whilst SEED gives him the great route of starting out as the hot blooded rival who over time mellows and matures into a credit to his side. The problem is that the badly handled character arcs, plotholes and boring battles of the sequel left a bad taste in people's mouth. Doesn't help that spin offs like Dynasty Warriors only acknowledge the Destiny part of CE.
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Strike Zero
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:50 pm |
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Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:49 pm Posts: 3151 Location: Becoming a Gundam
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_________________ Thundermuffin wrote: SETSUNA: There is no Tomino in this world.
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Arbiter GUNDAM
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:28 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:36 pm Posts: 2337 Location: Cruisin' the Universe w/Spaceman Spiff!!!
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farjad93 wrote: Yeah, I suppose you're right, haha. I like this forum site because the rules seem to actually be enforced and so any discussions remain intelligent and civil  That's because the mod's banhammers are made out of Gundanium. 
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Kuruni
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:11 am |
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Strike Zero wrote: http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g298/strike_zero/1330712486806.jpg
Well, that's cool. Maximum Gundam Power - All Striker Comnine! Obviously, its name must be Perfect Striker. What you think Kira will use as finishing move, Maximum Gundam Typhhon or Maximum Gundam Cyclone? More serious note, now Aile Striker can flip its main wings too? And those funnel-like devices look suspecious...
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Sume Gai
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:15 am |
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Arbiter GUNDAM wrote: farjad93 wrote: Yeah, I suppose you're right, haha. I like this forum site because the rules seem to actually be enforced and so any discussions remain intelligent and civil  That's because the mod's banhammers are made out of Gundanium.  just gundanium? Well that must be why we get the occasional spam bot. Ban hammers should be made out of Super Alloy Z Alpha for maximum effect. More on topic, yeah SEED I felt was a fairly strong series on it's own it stuck to the original story a tad too closely at first but began to shine as it really came into it's own around episode 30. I do admit after watching Destiny I haven't seen the series in full though It's hard to say how much the sequel poisoned my opinion of SEED, certainly not to the point outright dislike. I'm also a big fan of the Dub which was how I was introduced to the series and I admit that's the main reason I'll probably never watch the Remastered version (course I'm weird and kind of like the supposedly awful Zeta Dub as well, perhaps I just like to sit back and experience my anime if I have the choice *shrug*).
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Kratos
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:00 am |
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My issues with SEED lie in its constant squandering of the incredible potential that its various concepts had. Constant "telling" without "showing" (especially in regards to Coordinators and their plight), wasting time with redundant flashbacks more than Naruto, bland character that are never used to their potential (I think Dearka is the only well-written, three-dimensional character in the entire show, though Natarle and Athrun come close), constant thematic self-sabotage (ESPECIALLY regarding deaths - I think there are maybe two that the show doesn't rapidly make a moot point)....SEED, for all its watchability and great music, is an incredibly poorly-written show, on nearly every count. I recently watched this series for the first time, and it was one of the most frustrating shows I have ever seen.
I know an HD remaster wasn't going to fix these issues, as it's just a visual thing, but here it's sounding like that's a mixed bag too. Oh well, so it goes.
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HellCat
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:37 am |
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I think the worst of that in the original was Andrew. Kira wasn't exactly happy about killing enemies before but Andy really gave him a face to haunt him every time he took a life and challenged the idea the Coordinators were all that bad. Then he's revealed to have survived and it kind of invalidates that whole character arc for Kira. Gundam has let characters cheat death before (and WITH Four, ha) but SEED just made a sport of it.
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