Mecha Talk 2.0

well now that trailer looks reeeeeealy promising can't wait to see the action of those suits.
what i am wondering is if the quanta will still use the TDS cause it looked more like a kick ass upgraded and overpowered exia design...intow my eyes at least. And if mr. delivery boy saji crossroad will get back into supporting setsuna.... with an 0-riser like thing to give the quanta the final edge in the epic enfight against who ever it will be.

or if this movie will mainly focus on the maincast and leave out all the smaller characters for only a brief appearance of a maximun to 30 seconds. In my eyes they got a lot of loose ends to tie up still.

Saji Crossroad is a candidate, honestly. He went on the same quantamization trip (when Revive stabbed 00 Raiser in its initial battle) that is said to have triggered Setsuna's evolution, and he's been at the center of the 00's output bursts/newtype moments second only to Setsuna.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if Saji didn't become an Innovator.

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While I'd be just as surprised as you at Saji NOT "Innovating", Part of me wants him to be left alone in the movie because IMO Saji got his happily ever after, and I kinda don't want to have that be ruined.

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On Gundam Sentinel...

New animation from the SE-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxt6MvXyxjw

Hey, it's second-season related! They're using a piece of music from the second season during Exia's improved Swords Dance there.

And Dynames gets to do some pistol-fu and vaguely homage Deathscythe Hell Custom.

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New Gundam 00 English retrospective interview: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2009-10-28/interview-yousuke-kuroda-and-seiji-mizushima

Thundermuffin: YOWZA!!! New scenes are AWESOME! Great job on Moralia! If they have the other noted "wish list" scenes in there, this is a day one purchase (assuming it comes to North America). I loved Season 1's mechanical designs, and here they get a chance to really shine. This is more of what I imagined from 00 the first time around. (edit: Although...I do sorta miss Exia's mid-air flip and the nice shot where the two PMC MS are cut horizontally at the waists. Maybe it's in SE somewhere else?) KEEP THE SPECIAL EDITION 1 UPDATES/INFO COMING!

2010 Movie: Anyway, yeah, 00 Quanta does look more like Exia, which is a good thing I think. Even so, the trailer hardly shows anything more than, say, a video game's anime intro might. I hope they don't go back to Saji for many reasons I won't bother listing. They'd be best served by doing a lot of flashbacks to Aeolia's original Jupiter missions and such, and then connecting it to the current crisis the G-Meisters face. Otherwise, it's just going to feel tacked on to the Season 2 ending as "let's fight one more big baddie!" Also hoping CB finally pays for their crimes in the process and all the Gundams are destroyed Tomino-style. If they want this to be memorable, I think they've got to push the envelope. But maybe that's just me.

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Every Gundam in the series (except Exia) has been destroyed. I'd be surprised if the new Gundams weren't destroyed at the end of the movie.

i have to disagree, saji (or indeed any of the other meisters, save tieria) hasn't had 5+ years of constant exposure to green GN particles, setsuna has, which is what i feel is the contributing factor to setsuna becoming an innovator (besides undergoing quantamization)

remember that setsuna was 16 when he first became a gundam meister, which meant his body was still developing when he was first exposed to GN particles, so maybe part of it involves very long term exposure to the stuff while the human body is still in development.

Maybe it's me but I've never found Neil's gun-kata with Dynames better than Lyle's with Cherudim. Even with the new footage, I still think Lyle's was a little more impressive.

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Exia technically has been destroyed at least once, arguably twice.

1. End of S1, against the Custom Flag II (arguable - IIRC its head was lopped off and it suffered internal damage from a saber through the torso that trashed an entire side of the cockpit, but I don't remember how damaged it was besides that. But it was damaged enough that we got an explosion, and thus it counts in my book)
2. Beginning of S2, when "Patchwork Exia" (The Exia Repair, or however it's called) got trashed in battle against the Ahead, and Tieria had to rescue him.

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On Gundam Sentinel...

The new battles are pretty sweet. I lol'd at that one Realdo pilot's terrified scream as the Exia came up on it with its saber.

...The only problem is that I've heard they went and cut Feldt's scene with Lockon where she talks about her parents in order to make room for the new fights.

SCREW. THAT.

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three times if you include exia R2 and its skirmish with the 0 gundam, the only other gundam i can think of thats been destroyed close to that many times is the wing gundam




i'm liking the new battle footage as well, certainly makes alot more sense than both sides just standing there A-team firing. (btw its a hellion, not a realdo) i just hope that the flag and enact get the love that they were denied in the series

hopefully that bit about feldt's scene being cut is just an unsubstansiated rumour

There is one advantage to this: since Sunrise will no doubt consider both versions of 00's first half to be official, we as fans can more or less just pick and choose which bits we include in our personal "canon" (as far as that word applies - it's been repeatedly noted that it doesn't), meaning that Feldt does talk to Original Lockon about her parents, and the cool new bits from the Battle of Moralia happen!

The real debate is whether the newly-animated scenes in SE1 happen as well as, or instead of, their S1 counterparts...

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Quite true, actually. I didn't mention that one bc IIRC the damage in that clash was limited to that minor slash across the cockpit and the final stab through the torso, whereas in both the other cases at least two body parts were lopped off.
But it also counts(arguably).

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Innovation comes solely from Twin-Drive exposure, though, not single-drives. That's the entire purpose of the 00, really; to get the particle density needed. Back in last half of season two/right afterwards, the series team said that Setsuna's Innovation triggered from the point he quantamized with the 00 Raiser. Saji's not only been quantamized (the only other person to date), but he's been at the heart of a number of the 00 Raiser's big-output bursts.

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...With how big 00 is on the net, I'm surprised we don't have a synopsis or a list of what scenes made the SE1 cut yet.




While the 'A-Team style' did make the Gundams seem a bit more powerful, I really do like seeing this kind of frenetic movement, which does make the PMC Hellions seem tougher. (I've been a proponent of extending Season 1's storyline with the 3 Blocs, and these new fight scenes give an idea why. You could have the 'A-Team battles' to start off with, and then build up to the 3 Blocs becoming more aggressive with their individual resources in more ways PRIOR to the uniting at the desert battle and subsequently getting the GN-X). Anyway, yeah, the Moralia fight always did seem a little lacking considering the forces gathered there. This choreography here is some of the best in the 00 franchise.

As for the Flag and Enact, they could use some love, too--especially the Flag. A clear moment that could use some enhancement is Graham's second battle vs. Exia in Taribia. Rather than just shooting him into the water right away, there should be some clashing, as that fight was built up by Eifman developing the new Flag for Graham, but it never went anywhere.

Feldt's scene...I could kind of take it or leave it. Here's why: While it was one of the few nice human moments in S1, Feldt's character sadly never went anywhere. Therefore, in terms of getting the main points across for SE1, I could see why it might get slimmed or cut. On that same note, with how much we're subjected to of the Saji/Louise drama in S2, I hope they don't go overboard with the Saji/Louise scenes in SE1. I'm really hoping for a focus on Meisters vs. the World in this SE1. All the meandering pool time with Lasse and co. should be cut down or eliminated. One fight scene I'm nervous about being cut is Sergei vs. Setsuna, where he grabs Exia's head. That was the scene that made Sergei for me. This is so funny that I'm excited for this SE1 Movie. I guess because I had such hopes for 00, and felt such potential during the early parts of S1, that I somehow hope this SE1 will be able to coalesce 00's strongest aspects. It really could be a memorable movie, possibly surpassing its source material, if it's handled right.

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Flags already had sufficient representation in Gundam 00. Flag Fighters? Graham embarrassing Gundams in one?

Aside from Ali though, Enact is under represented, I think.

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I'd like to see some plain Flag action myself, personally; the regular flag got only one fight in total, and then it was always Custom Flag

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the quantamization was the catalyst, the fact that setsuna became one and saji didn't means that there has to be prerequisite conditions that have to be met, not just the quantamization on its own, otherwise saji would've become one too, which is what got me to thinking how setsuna is different, the 5 years of close exposure prior to piloting the 00 is the only thing that stands out.



i meant the standard mass produced flags, custom models don't count, and the mass production enact seemed to only exist to be curb-stomped during the pilot peisode of each season.

Everything started to speed up after Setsuna was shot with that particle bullet by Ali. This may be something that helped nudge the process over into proper Innovator-isation rather than just exposure which would probably just take longer.

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I personally think it has something to do with biometrics. They put too much focus on that to be a mere security measure. There's also the fact that Tieria had tried just about every Drive combination he had available and failed to get Twin Drive working. My personal theory is that likely had less to do with the drives and more the system identifying him as an Innovade. It's my belief that Twin Drive was designed to sync with a natural human and thus evolve them to achieve Innovation and unlock its true power (we're told near the end that 00 Raiser's power is down to the combination of Setsuna and Twin Drive, not the system by itself). Saji, who also didn't have biometric data pre-Corner rebellion, was likely isolated from the process.

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