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Chris
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:40 pm |
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sbester wrote: Come on, guys, leave the poor guy alone. It really does sound like he's unwelcome to post his thoughts here just because he's behind in the series. There is nowhere else really to speculate about things that have happened, and many of us are behind in it. Speculation is one of the most fun parts about watching a show, and excluding his thoughts and opinions because he's not as far along as the season 2 watchers is mean.
No one is criticizing anyone for being behind on the series. The problem here is that you can't "speculate" about what you think the second season should do when most of the season has already aired. If you want to speculate about what's left in the remaining episodes, that's fine, but you can't speculate about what's happened during the last 19 episodes just because you haven't seen it. It exists and has happened whether Duo has seen the episodes or not.
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Imperial
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:38 am |
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The second season is well under way and no one can deny that, but hasn't this entire topic been operating under the presupposition that we aren't to court it?
We can say this or that doesn't happen thanks to the subs we've seen, but what harm could it do to let first-timers take shots in the dark? Why deprive them that? It's harmless discussion on a discussion forum.
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Chris
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:42 am |
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Imperial wrote: The second season is well under way and no one can deny that, but hasn't this entire topic been operating under the presupposition that we aren't to court it?
We can say this or that doesn't happen thanks to the subs we've seen, but what harm could it do to let first-timers take shots in the dark? Why deprive them that? It's harmless discussion on a discussion forum.
Because it's ridiculous to waste time "speculating" about things that have ALREADY HAPPENED. As I said, even though many of the people in this thread haven't seen season 2, that doesn't mean the thread is in a vacuum where season 2 doesn't exist. The point of this thread is to avoid spoiling those people on season 2, but they have to understand that the season they haven't seen is almost over, thus there's no basis for trying to "speculate" on what they expect, since it's already happened. I don't understand why this simple concept is such an issue for so many posters.
_________________ "What did catch my eye, however, was a podcast named Gundamn!. At first I thought it was a podcast about firearms and [rednecks] discussing their collection, but after looking at the episode titles I was sold." - Xhavalor
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frezik
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:49 pm |
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Chris wrote: Imperial wrote: The second season is well under way and no one can deny that, but hasn't this entire topic been operating under the presupposition that we aren't to court it?
We can say this or that doesn't happen thanks to the subs we've seen, but what harm could it do to let first-timers take shots in the dark? Why deprive them that? It's harmless discussion on a discussion forum. Because it's ridiculous to waste time "speculating" about things that have ALREADY HAPPENED.
Why is it ridiculous? It's all entertainment. Speculation is half the fun. It's only "ridiculous" in the sense that it doesn't produce a directly practical result. But that would apply to all forms of entertainment.
Even for those of us in season 2, it's likely that the remaining episodes are already in the last phases of production (if not done entirely). From the producers' point of view, these events have already happened and the rest of us just don't know it yet. It's just a matter of your point of view.
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Chris
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:09 pm |
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frezik wrote: Even for those of us in season 2, it's likely that the remaining episodes are already in the last phases of production (if not done entirely). From the producers' point of view, these events have already happened and the rest of us just don't know it yet. It's just a matter of your point of view.
This is what's ridiculous. The episodes haven't aired yet, so speculation is fair game. But I've already made it abundantly clear that there's no point in speculating on what has already aired, and that is a waste of everyone's time here. You're trying to defend something that is really not defensible.
_________________ "What did catch my eye, however, was a podcast named Gundamn!. At first I thought it was a podcast about firearms and [rednecks] discussing their collection, but after looking at the episode titles I was sold." - Xhavalor
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LightningCount
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:11 pm |
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Chris wrote: ...I've already made it abundantly clear that there's no point in speculating on what has already aired, and that is a waste of everyone's time here. You're trying to defend something that is really not defensible.
Just to play devil's advocate for a second here: This argument isn't entirely fair. Gundam 00 airs in Japan. If you're in Japan, maybe this argument is more valid; however, a majority of us do not live in Japan. Thus, we have to wait. And as such, the only way people are seeing "new episodes" is by peeking into the future via the internet and fan subs like never before. Theoretically speaking, no one should be watching the latest full episodes until they're officially aired or released on DVD in their respective country. Especially if said series has been licensed. So, in that way, I think speculation is open game.
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laj12387
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:16 pm |
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Gundam 00 part 1 out May 19. Eps 1-9. Gundam 00F comes with the SE set.
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frezik
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:40 pm |
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Chris wrote: frezik wrote: Even for those of us in season 2, it's likely that the remaining episodes are already in the last phases of production (if not done entirely). From the producers' point of view, these events have already happened and the rest of us just don't know it yet. It's just a matter of your point of view. This is what's ridiculous. The episodes haven't aired yet, so speculation is fair game. But I've already made it abundantly clear that there's no point in speculating on what has already aired, and that is a waste of everyone's time here. You're trying to defend something that is really not defensible.
But this viewpoint completely takes away a significant joy in watching the series for many people. And if you're not doing this for enjoyment, why are you watching it?
As LightningCount states, those of us who have been watching season 2 technically shouldn't, and wouldn't have been able to 15 years ago. Officially speaking, the US has only see season 1. If we're talking unofficial, then the complete story line for season 2 was likely worked out a long time ago, so by the logic above, any speculation there is just as ridiculous.
Therefore, this thread should indeed consider its discussion as if season 2 hasn't happened yet.
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:08 pm |
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Sorry to interrupt the discussion, but is there any news of the release of the DVDs as of now?
After watching various clips on Youtube, I've really come to appreciate the quality of the English dubs. I guess a few parts in the beginning of the show could use some improvements, but by the end of the first season, all of the VA's sound like they are "seasoned" veterans who came out victorious in the Great Dubbing war. English dubbing sure have come a long way since the days of Pokemon and Sailor Moon.
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Sume Gai
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:12 pm |
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if you look back a bit you'll see that I have posted the links to the Part 1 regular and special editions.
these contain the first 9 episodes and I have no clue what the difference between each version is.
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:18 pm |
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Sume Gai wrote: if you look back a bit you'll see that I have posted the links to the Part 1 regular and special editions.
these contain the first 9 episodes and I have no clue what the difference between each version is.
Really? Thanks a lot Gai. I see that they are releasing 9 episodes at once now. The world is truly changing for the better. Thank you Celestial Being and your armed interventions on anime DVD's evil sales technique!(ahem, Super Robot Wats cough cough) 
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Sume Gai
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:33 am |
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long time since anyone posted in this thread If any of you are interested Bandai has put the first 3 uncut episodes of 00 on it's youtube channel.
dub 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1RSeKeS ... re=channel
sub 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwcJs0aD ... re=channel
also I've confirmed what I suspected Aeolia is Char which makes the fact that he gave the Gundams the ability to turn red and go 3x faster rather amusing
_________________ "If You are a man you'll do what's important before you grieve" -Captain Harlock
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:49 am |
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These are indeed free of Sci-Fi's butchering edits too. For example, the milk scene from episode three is in the video. (About 6:30 in, IIRC.)
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T.V.
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:01 am |
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"Not available in your region" though.
I'll guess I'll have to wait for the boxsets to get legal access to the dubs.
Though I find it a little grating that a legal free-of-charge internet distribution/streaming service is still enforcing the region specific disparaty.
And here I thought that one of streaming's raisons d'être is to have easy access everywhere...
Sume Gai wrote: also I've confirmed what I suspected Aeolia is Char which makes the fact that he gave the Gundams the ability to turn red and go 3x faster rather amusing Does anyone know already if Amuro's VA is likewise cast as Ribbons for the dub?
Though not exactly a neccesity for me, I'd still like to see the dub continuing the same VA injoke the original Japanese version does.
Seeing the "Char = Schenberg" being a new 'Dub Original Injoke', I'd like to think that that was also intentional on SCI-FI/Ocean's part.
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:05 am |
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T.V. wrote: "Not available in your region" though.  I'll guess I'll have to wait for the boxsets to get legal access to the dubs. Though I find it a little grating that a legal free-of-charge internet distribution/streaming service is still enforcing the region specific disparaty. And here I thought that one of streaming's raisons d'être is to have easy access everywhere... 
They have to enforce region locking because other companies own the rights in other areas. However, if you get a region free DVD player you could always play them.
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Chris
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:17 am |
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T.V. wrote: Does anyone know already if Amuro's VA is likewise cast as Ribbons for the dub? Though not exactly a neccesity for me, I'd still like to see the dub continuing the same VA injoke the original Japanese version does.
No. Brad Swaile is playing Setsuna, and to have him be Ribbons too would be very confusing.
_________________ "What did catch my eye, however, was a podcast named Gundamn!. At first I thought it was a podcast about firearms and [rednecks] discussing their collection, but after looking at the episode titles I was sold." - Xhavalor
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:25 am |
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Thanks for answering, Chris.
I didn't even knew Swaile was the voice of Amuro...
pd771 wrote: They have to enforce region locking because other companies own the rights in other areas. I know, but perhaps I'm expecting too much (and too soon) from the licensors and regional partners to streamline their online distribution and advertizing efforts.
In this case the strict seperation of the different regions -albeit understandable when in comes to local distribution and sale of physical content such as DVD's and BlueRay Discs- can be actually a hindrance to overall Internet based sale and promotion, I reckon.
Especially for a niche market which Gundam represents globally outside of Japan.
When will they start to really Innovate? 
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:44 pm |
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Chris wrote: No. Brad Swaile is playing Setsuna, and to have him be Ribbons too would be very confusing.
Of course, there's also Matt Ericksson(sp?), who did Amuro in Zeta.
But no, Dub-Ribbons is voiced by Yzak Joule. 
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Meteoid
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:06 pm |
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laj12387 wrote: Gundam 00 part 1 out May 19. Eps 1-9. Gundam 00F comes with the SE set.
Sweet, as long as the Japanese versions are on it I'm so getting that since it comes out on my birthday
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:31 pm |
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Bandai Posted the first 3 episodes, Japanese Audio with subs and the english dub. They're all uncut so we get to see the parts scifi edited out finally.
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