Mecha Talk 2.0

Gundamn! @ MAHQ Ep. 058 - "Gorram! @ MAHQ"
- Download Now!: 64 kbps - 152 min., 39 sec. (2:32:39) - 69.9 MB

Segment Breakdown for this Episode:

01. PETCO (Commercial)
Runtime: 0:00:00 - 0:00:43

02. Intro: "Neo News & the Gundamn Mailbag!"
Runtime: 0:00:43 - 0:26:00

03. Animēshon Podcast (Podcast)
Runtime: 0:26:00 - 0:27:09

04. 1st Segment: "Series Spotlight: 'Firefly - The Complete Series"
Runtime: 0:27:09 - 1:56:20

05. GoDaddy (Commercial)
Runtime: 1:56:20 - 1:57:09

06. 2nd Segment: "Cinema Spotlight: 'Serenity"
Runtime: 1:57:09 - 2:26:33

07. Mobile Suit Gundam Abridged by Gutted Wren Studios (YouTube Channel)
Runtime: 2:26:33 - 2:27:34

08. Outro: "Closing/Peep the Websites!"
Runtime: 2:27:34 - 2:32:39

Browncoats, unite! In this episode, we have a spirited discussion, spotlighting Joss Whedon's short-lived yet groundbreaking space western TV series, "Firefly" & the epic cinematic follow-up, "Serenity"!

Enjoy & thanks for listening!
Soul Bro Ryu
SBRmahq@gmail.com

Peep the Websites!:
MAHQ.net - Gundamn.net - Gundamn! @ MechaTalk Forum - Level Nine - MAHQ.net @ Twitter - Digg - MySpace - FaceBook Profile - FaceBook Group -Spill - Mevio - iTunes - Main RSS Feed - Shinjuku Station Fight Tube!

Podcasts & Links We're Fond Of:
Unpopular Kulture - Solar Radio Wave - Pretentious Internet Theatre - Row Row Fight Da Powah! - The Reverse Thieves: A Blog Duet with Hisui & Narutaki - SSAA Podcast: The Ass-Backwards Anime Podcast - Jabman025's YouTube Channel - Mobile Suit Gundam Abridged by Gutted Wren Studios

Sponsors & Special Offers:
GoDaddy - PETCO

Zune: zune://subscribe/?Gundamn=http://www.po ... heshow.xml

Feedback:
GundamnMAHQ@gmail.com

_________________
"Coffee & milk foam is not a meal. No offense Mr Chino. I'm not a fan of your beverages but I sure do love your pants. Thank you & good morning."
Some Dude, "Denny's Commercial"

Soul Bro Ryu
www.Gundamn.net
www.Twitter.com/SoulBroRyu

I am downloading right now. I can't wait, should be good.

_________________
One of these days I'm gonna get Bright!
Solar Radio Wave
"Video games are evil."
-Yoshiyuki Tomino
The "v" in my name is whatever you think it is.

Firefly = Awesome

Great discussion guys. The great thing about Firefly (for me at least) is that I can pull it out and rewatch it every now and again and not get tired of it (Cowboy Bebop is the same way for me). Sure I do this because the story and characters are strong, but it's also easy to do because it's not that long. Rewatching the series isn't intimidating because of the length (which you guy alluded to in your discussion). In that sense being such a short series is actually a strength. I might just pull it out and rewatch it in honor of this podcast.

Being a browncoat was frustrating for a long time until we got the movie. It always upset me that the sci fi channel didn't pick up the series for renewal. I can't imagine it would have been that hard (it didn't seem like Fox was too interested in protecting that IP). You can count on the sci fi channel to disappoint ... well except for Battlestar, which was a rare moment of genius. I use to have the Serenity as my wall paper on my work computer. I always loved when people came by to ask me about it. I won alot of converts that way.

I think Firefly caught on with non sci fi fans because it never really focused on the tech or lore too much. Being a mechanic on a spaceship for example was akin to be a automotive mechanic it seemed. You could have relocated the series to a contemporary setting and remove all the sci fi elements without too much effort and you wouldn't have lost all that much. In that way I mean that it's a very relatable story, and it doesn't have that normal sci fi barrier of entry (for example no one mentions tachyons IIRC).


Watching Firefly, I couldn't help but notice the similarities to the architecture of the show and the architecture of the RPG Traveler (the PnP game from the 70s) to the point where I do wonder if Whedon used it as inspiration for setting up the characters and the premise. He's a well known comic fan. It's not unreasonable for him also to be an RPG fan I suppose.

"Street ... Fighter!" Love it. Bravo to whoever was impersonating Soul Bro.

_________________
"Those who lay eyes on a Gundam shall not live to tell about it!"

-Trowa Barton, Gundam Wing

An interesting episode, Firefly has been on of those series which has interested me but never seen it.
And I have seen Serenity a few times, the movie also interested me and the Reapers/Reavers?
They always seemed like smarter, deadlier zombies you could potentially find in space

So considering it comes highly recommended I may look in to the series sometime.

I'm about 40% of the way through this.

To my shame, Firefly is still sitting in my to-watch pile (I've only gotten around to watching the first two episodes, plus Serenity... which is weird, given that I'm a huge Buffy/Angel fan)

The discussion on Gundam's theme of mutual understanding made me remember one comment I saw once about the fact that in Char's Counterattack, the reason Amuro and Char were at each other's throats was precisely because they understood each other so well, which... rather undercuts the notion that understanding will necessarily result in peace, doesn't it?

_________________
Vent Noir

"Excessive Scale: For when that galaxy absolutely, positively has to be destroyed overnight."
- Mekton Zeta Plus

Never watched either of them myself. Don't know if I will either.
On the episode editing front, I think you unintentionally slammed one of the commericials. The MSG Abridged ad ends with something like "Check it out at this address". Then the next thing you hear is "Let us do no such Gundamn thing!" Oops?

_________________
The Gundam wiki

"Reality makes a crappy special effects crew." - Adam Savage

LMAO! Listening to it, it kind of sounds like that, but in all truth, there was no intention there. I'll have to be mindful where I place that Picard sounder from now on ^_^

_________________
"Coffee & milk foam is not a meal. No offense Mr Chino. I'm not a fan of your beverages but I sure do love your pants. Thank you & good morning."
Some Dude, "Denny's Commercial"

Soul Bro Ryu
www.Gundamn.net
www.Twitter.com/SoulBroRyu

Here I thought the entire opening post was going to be STREET FIGHTER STREET FIGHTER STREEEEEEEET FIGH FIGHTER!!

I can't say much about Firefly since I haven't seen it yet, but I definitely look forward to watching it after this episode. Thanks for featuring it.

_________________
To the end of the GALAXY!!!!
Damn, why is this line so catchy?

Listened to the entire thing now.

My only complaint is you didn't use "Big GUNDAMN! Heroes" as a quote.

_________________
Vent Noir

"Excessive Scale: For when that galaxy absolutely, positively has to be destroyed overnight."
- Mekton Zeta Plus

I believe that is the man of a thousand aliases himself, BoiWonder. Good to here from him, even if it's not on his own podcast.

Great show as always guys. I've never seen either of these but I have been debating whether or not to bother and listening to you guys talking about it with such passion has convinced me to seek it out.

_________________
2,000,000,000 points. I can almost taste the brownies.

Great show guys the opening bit with Soul Bro saying "Street Fighter" was funny as hell.

I thought that the question from the the mail bag was kind of interesting. I always thought the whole "newtype = complete understanding" was one of the great overarching themes of gundam. Even when two newtypes met and compelte understanding was achieved (Lala vs Amuro, Kamille vs. Haman, Haman vs. Judo, or even Uso vs. Katajina) did not necessarily lead to peace. Which begs the question if everyone became newtypes and could fully understand each other, would anything really change in terms of war? I think the idea has stagnated over the years but calling it a crutch is a bit much.

As for Firefly and Serenity, I enjoyed the seires but I found it above average at best. I do find it intresting that some of my freinds and family who are causal sci fi fans enjoyed it much more than I did. I never really thoght of it but there are a bunch of similaries between Firefly and Outlaw Star. Don't know why I didn't put 2 and 2 together in on that one. Either way for my money I would still rather watch Outlaw Star.

_________________
Xbox Live, Playstation Network, and Twitter : Jabman025
and check out my gunpla reviews on youtube

great episode. I do loves me some firefly. how much? well there is a brown coat in my closet.



Just because you understand doesn't mean you agree. Looking over CCA you can interpret a lot of char's actions as baiting him into a final conflict. Char is trying to change the world drastically, but he really only has two skills: manipulating people and blowing stuff up (and fear, and surprise, and nice red uniforms...we'll start again), the way I view the situation is either he succeeds and changes the world or Amuro stops him and the rest of humanity unites behind him in the effort.

_________________
The magic chicken strikes again

Maybe I should post somewhere other than the Gundamn! section...

Great episode. I was a Joss Whedon fan at least with Buffy and Angel until he decided Willow needed to become a witch. I started to feel he gave way to "design by fan committee" decisions. That made me apprehensive about watching Firefly. However, your review has made me think this is a series worth trying.

There were a few times phrases to the effect of "ahead of it's time (for US TV)" for was thrown out. Based on the descriptions provided in this episode, I'd throw out Farscape as another sci fi series "ahead of it's time" for US TV. Like Firefly, it's a very character-driven show which has a mixed bag of characters in its crew. However, unlike Firefly it was able to last beyond an initial season so the story was able to develop a bit more.

I'm curious if the Gundamn! cast has watched this series.

I haven't seen Farscape. Can't say if Chris has and if its a good series Soul Bro will probably seen in a couple of years and then rave about it.

_________________
Wanted: 1,000,000 hits on YouTube for Bernie's Lament.

Lelouch is and always will be dead.

B.A., M.A., PhD,
The Yoshiyuki Tomino School of Film.
"You draw'em, we kill'em!"

neomahq@gmail.com

PSN/XBOX Live: NeoLorroke

I have the whole show, but I have not seen the whole thing, so lets lighten up on SBR. I like the movie lot, I saw it again on SYFI a few days ago and I remembered why I liked it, to me it look like a movie made from the late 90s, and I love movies that have that feel to me.

_________________
Everywhere I have searched for peace and nowhere have I found it, except in a corner with a book
Solar Radio Wave Podcast
Patlabor: The Abridged Files Movie Podcast
Solar Radio Wave Live - My Personal Blog

Great episode guys.

I agree with neo when he said that watching the serinity movie is one thing and then later watching the series and the movie is another. I too watched the movie first and liked it and then enjoyed it even more the secound go round.

_________________
"I am the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me"-Jesus Christ

psn: Nates4Christ