Akatsuki - Striker Pack Compatible?

Vectorspace · Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:37 pm

Is Akatsuki striker pack compatible? Are the Oowashi & Shiranui packs Striker packs?

Discuss.

I think yes...

It's strong resemblance to Strike suggests yes. Add to that the fact that Orb had operated a Strike unit for a while (two for a short time) and had developed or helped develop more than one pack for it (Lightning & IWSP).

The biggest piece of evidence to yes that I know of, is the model kits.
1/100 Akatsuki's back: http://www.dalong.net/review/seed/d115/p/d115_42.jpg
MG Strike's back: http://www.dalong.net/review/mg/m65/p/m65_n12.jpg
http://www.dalong.net/review/mg/m65/p/m65_n08.jpg
Quite the structural similarity

Looks equally similar between the 1/144 Strike & Akatsuki, but I couldn't find good pictures.

ZZ Gundam · Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:42 pm

Just so you know, your links don't work. And yes, I think that though the "packs" are officially labled striker packs, they can be considered as such.

Vectorspace · Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:10 pm

Looks like the guy at Dalong.net has blocked remote linking to his images.

Sufficed to say, the hardpoint and surrounding frame on the back of the 1/100 Akatsuki looks identical to that of an MG Strike.

Nightwing03 · Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:17 pm

Just because it has a close resemblence to the strike that doesnt mean it can mount is striker pack, the thing it really needs is the hardpoints for mounting the packs.

RedShirt0909 · Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:20 pm

It probrably isn't pre-equiped for actual striker packs, although it's not out of the question seeing as how ORB worked on the Strike and the Rouge. Still, if it has a similar system, it could probably be field modified to take striker packs, but that would almost certainly make it unable to mount its conventional packs.

On a side note: 100 posts. Yay!

Athrun Zala · Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:22 pm

I would think so I've seen pics. of them from the back and they look like they could be capatable

Yuusha Tokkyu Might Gaine · Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:25 pm

This got me thinking: What about the Impules? Would it be capable of equipping Striker packs?

I mean, the Astray Out Frame with the hard points, it could pretty much equip the Strike's, Impules's, and the ZAKU's Wizard packs.

Hyakushiki · Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:32 pm

I thought Silhouette packs were the equivalent of striker packs.

Wingnut · Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:33 pm

Why would it need to? The ones it comes with are generally better than the ones the Strike had anyway.

EZero8 · Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:42 pm

Wingnut wrote:Why would it need to? The ones it comes with are generally better than the ones the Strike had anyway.

Well, there are some cases where the Impulse lacks an equivilent to things like the IWSP, Noir Striker or the Lightning Striker. Those are quite powerful packs in their own right, and the Impulse doesnt have those.

But in a way, the Impulse makes up for it with the Destiny Silhouette and Silhouettes based on the other Armory One prototypes.

Homeless · Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:50 pm

EZero8 wrote:Well, there are some cases where the Impulse lacks an equivilent to things like the IWSP, Noir Striker or the Lightning Striker. Those are quite powerful packs in their own right, and the Impulse doesnt have those.

The Destiny Silhouette IS the equivalent of the IWSP and Noir.

While it doesn't have one equivalent to the Lightning, I will note the Lightning isn't that great and has been wrecked on both of its combat uses.

SNT1 · Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:53 pm

looky at the last few images! (scroll down)

Of course, that doesnt mean it can do it canonically, but its for your viewing pleasure.

Dr.G · Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:56 pm

The mounting points are different for the sillouette packs and the wizard packs and the striker packs. The Astray Out Frame normally equips strikers but Lowe or someone essentially built a wizard striker pack that allows the ZAFT packs to be equipped. There is lineart for it in the Destiny Astray section.

And yes I would agree that the Akatsuki can mount strikers.

The Noir striker looks especially cool on it.

CHASER · Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:24 pm

Wow, that's a shiny model...

The Akatsuki's shoulders then might be the only part that's not striker pack friendly, since they're shaped slightly differently. Anything that doesn't require the shoulders would probably fit on well enough.

The Sillhouettes and Striker packs are built quite differently, to note only one difference is the fact that the former link with a laser lock system. The Out Frame had that multi-pack adapter it could mount.

Red XIV · Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:55 pm

Given the fairly obvious lineage between the Strike and the Akatsuki, there wouldn't really be any point in Orb altering the backpack hardpoint rather than just reusing the Striker system.

BTW, with regard to Out Frame using Wizards and Silhouettes, that doesn't go both ways. Out Frame's back hardpoint is of the Striker type, but there's an adapter called the "Multi-Pack" that fits on it and can equip Wizards and Silhouettes. Theoretically any other Striker-compatible MS should be able to use the Multi-Pack as well (thus, you could technically make a Destiny Windam

), but AFAIK there's only one of it and Jess hasn't been sharing it.

So far, however, there isn't any similar adapter to allow Silhouette or Wizard hardpoints to be used for other types of packs.

Volnixshin · Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:35 pm

The only Mobile Suit we know of that can equip any pack, ZAFT and EA alike is the Out Frame, not because it was built that way. It was built to be able to equipe a multitude of packs, but then got the...forgot the name...multi pack thing.

Vectorspace · Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:47 am

The Multi-Pack adapter - It's a Striker pack that has a wizard/silhouette hardpoint:

http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/destiny-as ... mf-x12.htm
Third from the bottom.

~SEED~ · Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:22 am

wow.. iwsp and noir striker on akatsuki looks awesome!

DeltasTaii · Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:20 pm

Just to point out the lineage of Akatsuki for those confused, or not knowing, the thing was actually built before the first half of SEED ended. By the time Kira and crew got to Orb, it had already been hidden away as way the heck too expensive (the beam reflection armour'll do that), and canned as a mass production unit.

It's pretty much the terrestrial Morgenroete's predecessor of the M1s, built (based on appearance) as a close derivativation of the Strike, rather than the all new machine based on the entire GAT-X series like the Astrays.

Vectorspace · Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:22 pm

Where did you get this piece of info? Izumi commissioned it before his death for Cagalli, but wasn't it build way after?