Macross Thread : Valkyrie Tehnology

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Macross Thread : Valkyrie Tehnology

Post by megazero » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:03 pm

First of all, I've opened this thread because I'm quite interested Valkyrie technology, esp. its transforming capabilities.

So, if there's any future Macross series, what do you think for future Valkyrie designs? :)
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Post by Anonymous » Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:19 pm

Have you checked MAHQs section on Macross yet?

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Post by megazero » Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:31 am

Yes, but this thread will go beyond what the Valkyries looked like in Macross. ^_^

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Post by Kuruni » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:02 am

Valkyrie? Well, it will stay the same. Even upgraded VF-1X has same look with original VF-1 since they only change internal engine (correct me if I'm wrong).

Now if we are going to talk about other variable machine like Excalibur or Invader... :lol:
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Post by megazero » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:21 pm

Imagine Basara's Custom Excalibur. His cockpit controller is a guitar, and its head is somewhat G Gundam-like.

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Post by Ork_dreadnought » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:58 am

Well, Macross 7 takes itself about seriously as G Gundam did.
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Post by Kuruni » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:26 am

Fire Valkyrie's face is more like various super robot (Dendoh for instance).

Seriously, I'm thinking of various VF from Macross VF-X2 and there're so many possibility. Invader has built-in arm beam gun similar to Zaubergern, Excalibur and Sturmvogel II has pin-point barrier, K?nig Monster is tranformable destroid... I guess that Excalibur's ability to use fold booster and pin-point barrier would be quite common for next generation VF, yet they would feature more energy-base weapon like Nightmare and Invader.
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Post by Scyron » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:35 am

Scyron wrote:Well, Macross 7 takes itself about seriously as G Gundam did.

What does that mean? A lot of people enjoy G Gundam and it having a concrete plot of Domo trying to save his brother Kyoji. Correct me if I'm wrong here but a better comparrison would be to SD Gundam (super deferender) being serious.
And all the reoccuring mech at the end was serious? Wing/78-2/dairtarn 3/etc etc etc lots of sillyness there. G-Gundam isn't my bag, but I'll sure as hell admit it achieved it's intentions. Toys and Kits were sold. People watched it. The end! 8)

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Post by Ork_dreadnought » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:58 am

Before I respond to that, are you upset that I implied that Macross 7 doesn't take itself seriously, or that G Gundam doesn't take itself seriously? Or that one is less serious than the other?

What I was implying that both series have a less than serious approach to mecha designs. Macross 7 has Sound Force, G has the Nether Gundam, Mermaid Gundam, and the Nobel Gundam. The merits of the plot and characters were not being commented on. This is a mecha forum, so I default to talking about mecha, I'm not mocking the series in question.

Now that's cleared up, back to thread's original point. I'm inclined to think that unmanned fighters will be popular, they are immune to culture shock.
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Post by megazero » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:33 am

Those unmanned fighters will become popular if their Valkyries are to survive the countless battles. :D

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Post by Ryujin » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:10 am

Unmanned fighters would be a reasonable development, especially given a Macross-type ship on a deep-space journey. You can only recruit & train so many new fighter pilots from the onboard population. Save the aces for critical situations requiring human judgment, and leave the routine stuff to the mass-produced AI-operated drones. Besides, if you start to run low on unmanned vehicles, just head to the nearest solar system, look for a convenient asteroid, and start cranking out new ones!

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Post by Kuruni » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:03 am

While I agree that unmanned fighter is very reasonable in Macross universe. I just hate how Ghost X-9 alway appear on enemy's side. :x Macross Plus, VF-X2, Super Robot Wars...all of them...
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Post by megazero » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:41 am

It's all for the purpose of a stronger enemy, more future mass production fighters and more efficient pilot assignments. :D

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Post by Ork_dreadnought » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:49 am

I suspect a repeat of what happened to the supervision army if UN Spacy gets into the habit of doing that though.
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Post by Anonymous » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:59 am

well they may look cool,but those transformation cycle's. wear out quicklly

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Post by Ork_dreadnought » Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:25 pm

True.

I wonder if we'll ever see destroids again.
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Post by megazero » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:53 pm

We can expect at least because they're for the land defense.
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Post by Kuruni » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:10 am

Macross VF-X2, which occur after event of Macross 7, still feature Destroids. And as I said, there is even a transformable one. http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/vf-x2/vb-6.htm
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Post by megazero » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:02 pm

After all, Destroids can't be neglected as part of the evolving technology in Macross.
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Post by My Impulse » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:39 pm

Kuruni wrote:While I agree that unmanned fighter is very reasonable in Macross universe. I just hate how Ghost X-9 alway appear on enemy's side. :x Macross Plus, VF-X2, Super Robot Wars...all of them...
Well, there's some merit as to why that always happens. The main reason the X-9 program was scrapped after Macross Plus was because its AI has been noted to have dangerous self preservation flaws.

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