Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally solved

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Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally solved

Post by balofo » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:58 am

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/docu0057.jpg/

According to this description the Mega Cannon appears to have 2 firing modes:
1-Normal output, gun is closed and its power is equal to the Dobergun(Beam)
2-Max Output, gun opens and its firepower is equal to Wing Zero's Twin Buster Rifle

Requesting a decent translation, these are just my guesses

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by Thrawnma » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:17 am

What mystery? We've sorta all accepted this as a fact for... *checks EW wiki entry*

~15 years?

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by balofo » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:23 am

Thrawnma wrote:What mystery? We've sorta all accepted this as a fact for... *checks EW wiki entry*

~15 years?
Gundam Wiki? LOL

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by Thrawnma » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:34 am

Production date. It was made in 1997.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by balofo » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:37 am

Thrawnma wrote:Production date. It was made in 1997.
Kid, this is actually new info.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by Thrawnma » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:09 am

You seem to think mocking me is going to move the focus away from the fact that the so-called "mystery" (with a "y" by the way) concerning the Tallgeese III's Megacannon hasn't really been a mystery for a very long time. People have either pretty much accepted it has multiple modes, like the Wing Zero's Twin Buster Rifle did, or simply no longer care.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by AmuroNT1 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:24 am

Alright, how about BOTH of you back it up?

We ASSUMED that the megacannon had a lower-power firing mode, since every official profile said things like "At full power it rivals the twin buster rifle". However, this is the first time there's been anything resembling an official source that out-and-out says it has a standard firing mode.

On the other hand, that book seems to make a few errors like giving the English name as "Toolgeese", and claiming the dobergun is a beam weapon (it is not, and I will fight to the death anyone who claims otherwise), so perhaps it isn't the best source.
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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by Thrawnma » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:55 am

Unless balofo requested someone to mediate between us I'm not sure why you're taking a stance that we need to "back off" anything. Also:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/t ... 174727.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/t ... 174732.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/t ... 175018.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/t ... 175022.jpg
claiming the dobergun is a beam weapon (it is not, and I will fight to the death anyone who claims otherwise)
Well I hear the Japanese practice martial arts so you'd better watch out if you fight to the death with the animators and production staff.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by Deacon Blues » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:48 am

Sorry, Amuro, even the Gundam Wing Encyclopedia says it's a beam weapon. Let it go man.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by ShadowCell » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:25 am

balofo, if you do what you did in the post I just deleted again, your ass is going out on the curb.

balofo, Thrawnma, both of you cool it--but particularly you, balofo, since you're the one who started this by being a condescending jackass.

Now then! Carry on.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by balofo » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:16 pm

How am I making this up? I posted a source with a picture, said that the new info is the normal output firing mode with power comparable to the Tallgeese's Dobergun. I take this book is a as good as source as the Wing Encyclopedia, since we have nothing else to answer this question. Unless the old 1/144 kit has something to say on this matter.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by ShadowCell » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:28 pm

Posting this thread is not what you did wrong; acting like a condescending jackass about it is what you did wrong. Now don't do it again.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by toysdream » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:21 pm

The description in balofo's scan is just an abbreviated paraphrase of the description in the original kit manuals from 15 years ago. Nothing new here at all.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by balofo » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:26 pm

toysdream wrote:The description in balofo's scan is just an abbreviated paraphrase of the description in the original kit manuals from 15 years ago. Nothing new here at all.

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Thanks, old scans sure are a gold mine for info

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by toysdream » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:42 pm

They really are! Maybe we should think about setting up some kind of archive. I think I have most of the Gunpla kit manuals published in the 20th century, so it shouldn't be too hard filling in the gaps.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by Geoxile » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:28 pm

AmuroNT1 wrote:Alright, how about BOTH of you back it up?

We ASSUMED that the megacannon had a lower-power firing mode, since every official profile said things like "At full power it rivals the twin buster rifle". However, this is the first time there's been anything resembling an official source that out-and-out says it has a standard firing mode.

On the other hand, that book seems to make a few errors like giving the English name as "Toolgeese", and claiming the dobergun is a beam weapon (it is not, and I will fight to the death anyone who claims otherwise), so perhaps it isn't the best source.
At least the font they used for the name is pretty classy :|

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by domino » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:59 pm

ShadowCell wrote:Posting this thread is not what you did wrong; acting like a condescending jackass about it is what you did wrong. Now don't do it again.
Actually, Thrawma started it by belittling balofo's attempt to provide useful information. It's disappointing that you're tearing into balofo when all he did was call Thrawma a "kid". Thrawma went on to belittle AmuroNT1 as well with his claim about the dobergun.

Whether or not it's 15 years old, the topic of Tallgeese's (I and II) dobergun has always been full of assumptions and many have wondered if the Tallgeese III's megacannon has a regular mode or not (only other reference is in gameplay?). Thanks to balofo for highlighting an official reference (even if it is old).

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by ShadowCell » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:08 pm

domino wrote:
ShadowCell wrote:Posting this thread is not what you did wrong; acting like a condescending jackass about it is what you did wrong. Now don't do it again.
Actually, Thrawma started it by belittling balofo's attempt to provide useful information. It's disappointing that you're tearing into balofo when all he did was call Thrawma a "kid". Thrawma went on to belittle AmuroNT1 as well with his claim about the dobergun.
I will leave it at this: that was not the only thing he was doing, and that's the last I'll say about it.

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by balofo » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:08 pm

domino wrote:
ShadowCell wrote:Posting this thread is not what you did wrong; acting like a condescending jackass about it is what you did wrong. Now don't do it again.
Actually, Thrawma started it by belittling balofo's attempt to provide useful information. It's disappointing that you're tearing into balofo when all he did was call Thrawma a "kid". Thrawma went on to belittle AmuroNT1 as well with his claim about the dobergun.

Whether or not it's 15 years old, the topic of Tallgeese's (I and II) dobergun has always been full of assumptions and many have wondered if the Tallgeese III's megacannon has a regular mode or not (only other reference is in gameplay?). Thanks to balofo for highlighting an official reference (even if it is old).
thanks bro! Another sensible person here, I'll send some gifts to your PM box

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Re: Tallgeese III Mega Cannon firing mode mistery finally so

Post by ShadowCell » Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:28 pm

Alright, this thread has gone on long enough. Since the two of you insist on picking fights and the question is answered, it is locked.

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