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Kylern
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:15 pm |
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Ok so how does a beam rotor, such as in Victory, allow a mech to fly like a helicopter? Logically I'm assuming its because beams interact with the physical world like a solid object and functions like a traditional rotor on a helicopter. In my head this makes sense but maybe I'm wrong. Anyone have an concrete reasoning behind this particular tech?
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Zerosystem
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:12 am |
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Kylern wrote: Logically I'm assuming its because beams interact with the physical world like a solid object and functions like a traditional rotor on a helicopter. That's pretty much it. A beam rotor is just further development of what beam sabres can do, and beam sabres use an I-field to keep the beam sabre plasma in place. I-fields are easily manipulated, so beam sabres can have the cutting edge reshaped into a lot of different shapes. Some beam melee weapons have curved edges, some are even designed to hold specific, specialized shapes so it's even possible to have a beam mace, as seen later in Victory Gundam. Anyway, beam rotors just emit beams shaped like helicopter blades. The I-field holding the shape in place ensures that it acts just like a solid object, so not even air will go through it, allowing it to act just like real helicopter blades.
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Wingnut
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:05 am |
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Zerosystem wrote: Anyway, beam rotors just emit beams shaped like helicopter blades. The I-field holding the shape in place ensures that it acts just like a solid object, so not even air will go through it, allowing it to act just like real helicopter blades. Which makes me wonder how the MS using it doesn't go into a horrid spin without a tail rotor.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:06 pm |
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Now you got me imagining such a MS spinning up into the air like one of those straight-up toy helicopters. Or at least being swung around in such a manner, lol.
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ydawg314
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:00 pm |
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Im not sure but maybe the verniers keep the ms in place
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Mark064
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:18 pm |
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Common misconception: beam rotors work like a helicopters blade.
They do not work like a helicopter's blade at all. Beam rotors are an application of the Minovsky Craft system. Think of it as the poor mans version as it doesn't require a huge generator and all that stuff. Other then that it works exactly the same as a Minovsky Craft. The helicopter sound effects obviously make no sense which I guess is what confuses people.
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Zerosystem
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:34 pm |
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I thought minovsky craft devices allowed ships and mobile suits to fly by creating a lattice of minovsky particles to push the ship or machine away from the Earth's surface. When did simply spinning a beam sabre generate the same effect? MAHQ's profile for the Zolo states that: MAHQ wrote: The Zolo was also the first mobile suit to use a "beam rotor", a device which not only created spinning beam blades that created lift and a control surface similar to a helicopter's rotor, but also doubled as a beam shield. Besides, helicopters without tail rotors exist in real life, they simply use a fan in the tail of the helicopter to generate the same force that a tail rotor would to stabilize the helicopter.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:30 pm |
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When you think of particles possibly being pushed down underneath the rotor, that's pretty much what it's doing, but only in that limited area rather than all around underneath the MS like the Victory's Minovsky Flight or the Victory 2's Minovsky Drive Systems do, which enable them to float completely stable rather than just 1 section being lifted to carry the rest like dead weight almost.
This is improved more with the Memedorza, with 2 beam rotors mounted on the shoulders, rather than just 1 mounted on 1 arm, and large thrusters in the legs, giving much greater balance and stability, I'd think.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:51 pm |
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MAHQ only has about a hundred million errors in it's Gundam profiles and that's one of them. But to be fair it's not really wrong it's just stupidly vague, the spinning beam blades do create lift it just doesn't say how so it sounds like it's exactly a helicopter blade concept.
But yeah the idea is that the beam rotor is doing exactly what a Minovsky Craft does and that is creating a lattice of Minovsky Particles to push the object away from the Earth's surface. There might be a bit more science behind it, but I don't have the time to search through my books for the one with it.
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