Known MSV-R so far

Gelgoog Jager · Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:48 am

Gundam Enzyklopadist · Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:46 am

Hmm, i would say the titles at the established MSV-R section for the MS-07W, MS-14BR, MS-14C-1A and YMS-09J are matching it.

Please note that the Action Graphic artwork from the MSV-R design entry spells it "Chimaira", which is the correct name. "Chimera" and "Chimaera" are the latinized versions of this.

-- Henning

toysdream · Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:33 pm

They seem to keep tinkering with the names of the MSV-R machines. Right now, these appear to be as follows:

MS-07W Gouf Combination Test Type
YMS-09J Dom High Speed Test Type
MS-14BR High Mobility Type Gelgoog (Chimaira Fleet A Bao Qu Battle Version)
MS-14C-1A Gelgoog Cannon (Chimaira Fleet A Bao Qu Battle Version)

-- Mark

Deacon Blues · Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:09 pm

Gundam Enzyklopadist wrote:Please note that the Action Graphic artwork from the MSV-R design entry spells it "Chimaira", which is the correct name. "Chimera" and "Chimaera" are the latinized versions of this.

Chimaira only gets you 4.3 million hits versus Chimera's 8.3 million hits on Google. Chimera is probably the correct spelling. But, if you want to be absolutely technical (or argue) Chimæra is how it was spelled on the first page of the Ridden manga.

I vote for Chimera.

toysdream · Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:20 pm

I think Henning has this one right. The MSV-R feature on the Chimaira (from the June 2010 Gundam Ace) shows the name written clearly on the side of the ship, with exactly that spelling.

As noted in the Japanese Wikipedia entry for キマイラ (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/キマイラ), "Chimaira" is the original Greek version, from which the Latin "Chimaera" and the European "Chimera" are derived. Each of these has its own distinct kana equivalent: the Latin "Chimaera" is written キマエラ, the European "Chimera" is written キメラ, and the English pronunciation is written カイメラ. The kana キマイラ, which are used for the Gundam vessel in question, are specifically reserved for the Greek "Chimaira". As for the zoological term "Chimera", this has its own separate page in the Japanese Wikipedia, under キメラ (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/キメラ).

The upshot of which is that the MSV-R feature was correct in spelling this as Chimaira, Henning was correct to point this out, and the rest of us should break our bad habit of writing it as per the Latin or English spellings. If that was the intention, they would have chosen different kana in the first place.

-- Mark

Deacon Blues · Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:42 pm

I'd normally be inclined to agree on this matter, but this is Japan we're talking about... And in the magical world of Gundam spelling/name variations are plentiful! All in all, it does lead me to wonder why Ark Performance has the "Revenge of Ide" logo slapped on a door with Chimæra branded below it. The opening blurb is as follows:

其は獣である

リキュアの地に住まいし者は
テュポーンとエキドナが娘
獅子の頭に山羊の軀
尾は毒蛇
個は一にして、一なるも個である
ゆえに其をキマイラと言う

其は獣である・・・

The kana is the same as the one you provided though... Chalk this up to the manga-ka's wonderful (masterful!) use of Engrish?

toysdream · Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:46 pm

Deacon Blues wrote:The kana is the same as the one you provided though... Chalk this up to the manga-ka's wonderful (masterful!) use of Engrish?

Yeah, these manga guys tend to spell things all kinds of crazy ways. Anyway, I think the spelling in the actual MSV-R artwork would trump the spelling used one time in the spin-off comic, especially since it's actually the correct spelling based on the kana.

-- Mark

Deacon Blues · Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:00 am

toysdream wrote:
Deacon Blues wrote:The kana is the same as the one you provided though... Chalk this up to the manga-ka's wonderful (masterful!) use of Engrish?
Yeah, these manga guys tend to spell things all kinds of crazy ways. Anyway, I think the spelling in the actual MSV-R artwork would trump the spelling used one time in the spin-off comic, especially since it's actually the correct spelling based on the kana.

-- Mark

Which, as usual, Ark Performance does list as the name in one of the later chapters of the manga. *bashes head on desk repeatedly*

Gelgoog Jager · Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:09 am

toysdream wrote:They seem to keep tinkering with the names of the MSV-R machines. Right now, these appear to be as follows:

MS-07W Gouf Combination Test Type
YMS-09J Dom High Speed Test Type
MS-14BR High Mobility Type Gelgoog (Chimaira Fleet A Bao Qu Battle Version)
MS-14C-1A Gelgoog Cannon (Chimaira Fleet A Bao Qu Battle Version)

-- Mark

Thanks for the names Mark.

Also thanks to everyone for the clarification on the Chimaira's name. I suppose that means that the unit's correct name is the "Chimaira Corps".

Now, here's a more and better images of the RB-79F and a different scan with text for the RX-77-3D:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... B-79Fa.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... 77-3De.jpg

Gelgoog Jager · Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:46 am

Sorry for the double post, but I just found the next MSV-R.

This time we get yet another non-MS variation:

The FF-X7Bst PLAN004

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... st004a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... st004b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... st004c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... st004d.jpg

The additional verniers seem to point out that it might be a plan to optimize the core booster for space combat. Overall, the design looks very similiar to the original core booster and seems to even keep the same weapons of said design.

I also found interesting that the image shows some Saber-Fish still in active duty in space.

Calubin_175 · Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:39 am

Kind of mimics the concept of a space specialised G-Fighter. These superfluous designs out of universe are rightfully reflected by their shelved state in-universe.

Enileph · Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:51 pm

On this Blue "MS-14C-1A"
Well, the one in the manga is indeed not a proper Zeon MS-14C-1A. According to the story the MS is quite heavily modified and upgraded, with the addition of new technilogy, featuring designs from both Zeonic origin and EFSF materials, etc.

The creator of this MS seems to be related to AE.

toysdream · Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:27 pm

Enileph wrote:On this Blue "MS-14C-1A"
Well, the one in the manga is indeed not a proper Zeon MS-14C-1A. According to the story the MS is quite heavily modified and upgraded, with the addition of new technilogy, featuring designs from both Zeonic origin and EFSF materials, etc.

True, but it was also an oddball even during the One Year War. This customized blue Gelgoog has a unique head design, with mysterious vents over the "ears" and a funky head crest, and every time we've seen it in wartime flashbacks - including the "Return of Johnny Ridden" comic and the "Action Graphic" painting of the Chimaiara that appeared in the MSV-R profile series - it's been shown with the same weird head.

In the ten years between the end of the One Year War and the "Return of Johnny Ridden" comic, the blue Gelgoog seems to have undergone further modifications, but even during the war it couldn't be classified as a stock MS-14C-1A.

As for the "Plan 004" version of the Core Booster, this appears to be a prototype version. The first sentence of the "Action Graphic" caption calls it "one of the testbeds for the Core Booster," and the next sentence refers to it as the Prototype Core Booster.

-- Mark

Wingnut · Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:29 pm

toysdream wrote:As for the "Plan 004" version of the Core Booster, this appears to be a prototype version. The first sentence of the "Action Graphic" caption calls it "one of the testbeds for the Core Booster," and the next sentence refers to it as the Prototype Core Booster.

-- Mark

Plan 004 eh? That explains why Sayla and Slegger's core boosters were units 005 and 006.

Enileph · Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:45 pm

Always wonder when will I be able to pilot one of these darn Super Gelgoog thing, if ever... (Yes I play Kizuna arcade, today's new MS is Power GM for EFSF and xamel for Zeon)

On the side note... Is there any info on how heavily modified Johnny Ridden's Gelgoog is? It seems to be that his MS and the blue one can go toe to toe.

PS: Speaking of Kizuna, got Efreet Necht and Striker Custom/katana two days ago... anyone kow where I can get more info on the story of Gundam Katana? Yes its not a gundam, but a GM Striker, but after piloting this monster ... it makes me wonder.

Gelgoog Jager · Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:54 pm

The newest MSV-R manga provides some additional data for some MSV-R units and a cameo from and old MSV unit:

First some additional images for the MS-07W, including a size comparison between a regular Dopp and the MS-07W "Little Dopp", which seems to be about 2/3 as big as a regular Dopp:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... S-07We.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... S-07Wf.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... S-07Wg.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... S-07Wh.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... S-07Wi.jpg

The manga calls it "Gouf Compound Examination Type", which is very close to Mark's translation:

toysdream wrote:They seem to keep tinkering with the names of the MSV-R machines. Right now, these appear to be as follows:

MS-07W Gouf Combination Test Type
YMS-09J Dom High Speed Test Type
MS-14BR High Mobility Type Gelgoog (Chimaira Fleet A Bao Qu Battle Version)
MS-14C-1A Gelgoog Cannon (Chimaira Fleet A Bao Qu Battle Version)

-- Mark

Also, some new information for the mysterious Gelgoog:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... 4C-1Ah.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... 4C-1Ag.jpg

Basically this indicates that it has a "crushable armor" and its armor material is Gundarium composite.

Finally, images of Garma's MS-06FS, making a cameo during an exhibition in New York, during the anniversary of the liberation of the city:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... S-06FS.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... S-07Wg.jpg

Nowhere Man · Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:45 am

Gelgoog Jager wrote:Also, some new information for the mysterious Gelgoog:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... 4C-1Ah.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... 4C-1Ag.jpg

Basically this indicates that it has a "crushable armor" and its armor material is Gundarium composite.

Sounds just like Chobham armor, though, so I don't get what makes this variety so special...

Enileph · Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:32 pm

Nowhere Man wrote:
Gelgoog Jager wrote:Also, some new information for the mysterious Gelgoog:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... 4C-1Ah.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/ ... 4C-1Ag.jpg

Basically this indicates that it has a "crushable armor" and its armor material is Gundarium composite.
Sounds just like Chobham armor, though, so I don't get what makes this variety so special...

Well, the idea is that the "crushable armor" design protects important MS parts from getting harmed, and such technology are used by Zeonic/Zimmad designed MS, aka a non-EFSF design. The Gundarium materials, however, are EFSF based tech. So basically someone created/customized (HEAVILY modified) the gelgoog with Zeonic Technology, using EFSF developed materials.

Simply put, the gelgoog is not just a gelgoog patched up and upgraded with newer materials, but is one that is built and serviced in a sizable factory compound, since the whole armor has to be manufactured rather than just stuff modified from existing parts.

The conclusion of the episode suggests that AE is behind all this.

Homeless · Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:57 am

I don't see them posted, so here's last month's:
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/3473/il6xus.jpg
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/6941/ilbwgo.jpg
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/7176/ilbyow.jpg
http://img858.imageshack.us/img858/8628/ilbums.jpg

Deacon Blues · Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:32 am

God that thing is hideous. For a country that was supposedly poor and what not, they have a hell of a lot of variations and new weapons. I think they need to stop making MSV from the OYW era.

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